<div><div dir="auto">Had started replying the other day, but seems I forgot to hit send, so i’ll reply tothis one instead :)</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">We see them as PPPOE headers, on our AAPT wholesale services with NBN and AAPT direct DSL services - but not on Telstra services. It’s very handy, as AAPT at least rate limit how often you can do a line state diagnosis to pull sync rates from NBNco (it’s about six or seven per 30 mins maximum), so if you have a tech at the customer’s premises messing with cabling, being able to see sync rates on every reconnection saves a lot of hair pulling once you hit the rate limit for LSD’s.<br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, 26 Jan 2020 at 12:52 pm, Ryan Mounce <<a href="mailto:ryan@mounce.com.au">ryan@mounce.com.au</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div dir="auto">NBN Co do inject options into DHCP and PPPoE requests with the down/up sync rate for their wholesale xDSL services so that ISPs (RSPs in NBN lingo) can shape individual services correctly. I have no sense how widely ISPs are actually taking advantage of this.</div></div></div><div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">-Ryan</div></div><div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 17 Jan 2020 at 11:24, Dave Taht <<a href="mailto:dave.taht@gmail.com" target="_blank">dave.taht@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi, all. I'm here at <a href="http://linux.conf.au" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">linux.conf.au</a> having just given a talk about how<br>
tcp works in the bufferbloated age[1].<br>
<br>
On my way here I stopped in for a few days with geoff huston and<br>
george michaelson who filled my ears with the chaos of the NBN rollout<br>
and other issues in the australian network infrastructure... and gave<br>
me a shot at some data they had on bloat, and ecn usage in the wild<br>
which I hope to write up over the next month or so.<br>
<br>
I was wondering about a few things:<br>
<br>
How y'all doing on eliminating bufferbloat from your networks? Using<br>
things like fq_codel, sch_fq + bbr, etc?<br>
<br>
Do you have any awareness from your regulatorium?<br>
<br>
I see, from sites like whirlpool, that some consumer hardware here,<br>
like the fritzbox, have fq_codel now, but it's not clear if ISPs are<br>
actively configuring it (or what we call "sqm") yet. (theres a PPPoe<br>
message now in use in parts of germany for up/down and frame rate<br>
seeing increasing deployment).<br>
<br>
Lastly:<br>
<br>
Anyone need a wayward network researcher/theorist for a few weeks or<br>
months to help address their bufferbloat issues in their stacks and<br>
hw? - maybe not this trip but on some other occasion?<br>
(I rather like hanging in australia)<br>
<br>
[1] blatant plug <a href="http://youtu.be/ZeCIbCzGY6k" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://youtu.be/ZeCIbCzGY6k</a><br>
<br>
-- <br>
Make Music, Not War<br>
<br>
Dave Täht<br>
CTO, TekLibre, LLC<br>
<a href="http://www.teklibre.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.teklibre.com</a><br>
Tel: 1-831-435-0729<br>
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