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<p class="MsoNormal">Nah, you can buy Office365 on an Enterprise agreement and get volume licensing.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Though the push is towards Microsoft 365 which is Office365 plus Windows 10 and the enterprise security stuff all bundled.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">But given how rubbish the internet speeds are in this country I wouldn’t be throwing away your work desktops and moving everything to the cloud.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Its better then it was a few years ago, but when NZ has faster internet then we do its disappointing.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Regards Chad.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Chad Kelly <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Manager <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">CPK Web Services <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Phone 03 52730246<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Web https://www.cpkws.com.au<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Matthew Moyle-Croft <mmc@mmc.com.au> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 21, 2019 6:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Chad Kelly <chad@cpkws.com.au><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Brad Peczka <brad@bradpeczka.com>; ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Microsoft cloud issues?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Admittedly I’m not super clear on this but I thought Microsoft stopped really generally offering O365 via ER and it’s now on “special request only”?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">“Free peering” is “Direct connectivity” FWIW.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">MMC<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 21 Nov 2019, at 4:50 pm, Chad Kelly <<a href="mailto:chad@cpkws.com.au">chad@cpkws.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yeah for a small team Express Route would be overkill. <o:p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Most providers on this list should have direct connectivity though
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<p class="MsoNormal">As an example Vocus connects directly in both Sydney and Melbourne and so do Telstra.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Microsoft are putting a significant amount of effort into their partner network they want partners to get end customers onto the CSP platform, so support for the products should increase significantly over coming months.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">This is also ware a multi cloud strategy comes in handy, its more aimed at enterprise customers, but prevents the issue of a single point of failure if one service falls over completely.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Chad Kelly </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Manager </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">CPK Web Services </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Phone 03 52730246</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Web <a href="https://www.cpkws.com.au">https://www.cpkws.com.au</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Brad Peczka <<a href="mailto:brad@bradpeczka.com">brad@bradpeczka.com</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 21, 2019 4:40 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Chad Kelly <<a href="mailto:chad@cpkws.com.au">chad@cpkws.com.au</a>>;
<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Microsoft cloud issues?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Microsoft have publically and openly acknowledged that they had an issue yesterday with their network platform.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">The fact that you did not receive calls from your customers may not necessarily indicate the absence of an issue; in fact, I'd say it indicates an
increasing acknowledgement and (sadly) acceptance of outages with cloud services in general. What would have once resulted in system admins and support staff getting strips torn off them for services being down is now met with little more than a knowing nod
and "Ahhh. We should let the team know about that".</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">It's also worth noting that direct connectivity to Azure or AWS is great for some businesses, but not applicable or suitable for others - nor is it a
guarantee of being unaffected by these kind of issues. As an example, a small 5 person business that relies on 365 for email hosting cannot, and should not have to, in most cases procure an ExpressRoute just to get connectivity to their email or presence platform.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">But hey, that's what happens when you put all your eggs on someone elses computer(s).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">-Brad.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> AusNOG <<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>> on behalf of Chad Kelly <<a href="mailto:chad@cpkws.com.au">chad@cpkws.com.au</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 21 November 2019 11:53:30 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Microsoft cloud issues? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">On 11/21/2019 12:00 PM, <a href="mailto:ausnog-request@lists.ausnog.net">
ausnog-request@lists.ausnog.net</a> wrote:<br>
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> We just had a 8 hour issue with no emails yesterday<br>
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I was at the Microsoft Head Office in Melbourne yesterday and was still <br>
able to recieve mail fine.<br>
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I'd say some of these issues were specific to certain networks.<br>
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I didn't get any urgent calls from customers either.<br>
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Microsoft have connectivity directly with most ISPs in Au now a days. <br>
I'd suggest not relying on free peering.<br>
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I'd get direct connectivity.<br>
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As for Teams for corporate use I would suggest running a Hybrid Cloud <br>
environment for it.<br>
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I did notice some delays to email on Tuesday night but none of our stuff <br>
was down totally.<br>
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Regards Chad.<br>
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Chad Kelly<br>
Manager<br>
CPK Web Services<br>
Phone 03 5273 0246<br>
Web <a href="http://www.cpkws.com.au/">www.cpkws.com.au</a><br>
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