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<div>Or just block all traffic from the OP's network ;)</div>
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<blockquote type="cite" class="front-blockquote">On October 13, 2019, 8:00 PM GMT+11
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<div class="fasrn39y front-email-body">I was thinking, just blackhole all traffic for prefixes originated from AS1221, that would solve the issue!<br>
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<blockquote class="front-blockquote" type="cite">On 13 Oct 2019, at 19:52, Bradley Amm <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:brad@bradleyamm.com" target="_blank">brad@bradleyamm.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div style="direction:ltr">Based on the tone of the thread he may as well block Netflix as they are using the network to get videos, smtp to non Aussie online customers and sip to non Aussie online servers. While at it block calls from those sip servers to
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><b>From:</b> AusNOG <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>> on behalf of Mark Delany <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:g2x@juliet.emu.st" target="_blank">g2x@juliet.emu.st</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, October 13, 2019 3:15 pm<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Telstra Wi-Fi calling on our network.
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On 13Oct19, Jonathan Brewer allegedly wrote: <br>
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> Calls will still work, but it might make Telstra uncomfortable <br>
> enough that they want to negotiate. <br>
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There are four assumptions here that I'm not sure are valid. <br>
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The first is that the affected customers will blame Telstra. How do <br>
you know this will occur? The affected customers may well determine <br>
that they only get crappy performance with Ozonline and they get great <br>
performance on their mate's wifi which is connected to a competitor <br>
ISP. If I were confronted with such evidence I might first suspect <br>
Ozonline of running a second-rate network. <br>
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The second assumption is that Telstra will notice. How do you know <br>
this will occur? Do you think they have AI-driven support systems <br>
which can correlate a few random complaints about wifi calling with a <br>
particular ISP? If multiple ISPs adopt the same degradation approach <br>
even real AI would find correlation difficult yet alone the fake AI we <br>
have today. <br>
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The third assumption is that based on the strange traffic flow Telstra <br>
will deduce that it is a subtle signal from an ISP wishing to initiate <br>
a back-door peering agreement rather than just a poorly run ISP <br>
network. What makes you think Telstra will make such a deduction? <br>
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The final assumption is that on making all these correlations and <br>
deductions, Telstra will care enough about a few of their customers <br>
suffering such that they will drop their decades-long staunch <br>
opposition to peering with anyone inside Australia. Good luck with <br>
that one my little flower. <br>
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Mark. <br>
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