<div><div dir="auto">Hi,</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The NetComm FTTC/FTTdp devices, that I believe are in use by NBN, can be fed by fibre or HFC, depending on the unit. Logically, fibre would be the preferred connection method. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Jamie</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 1 May 2019 at 12:31 pm, Philip Loenneker <<a href="mailto:Philip.Loenneker@tasmanet.com.au">Philip.Loenneker@tasmanet.com.au</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Do you mean HFC?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">Philip Loenneker | Network Engineer</span></b><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#ed7d31"> | TasmaNet<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Skeeve Stevens <<a href="mailto:ausnog@futurecrime.agency" target="_blank">ausnog@futurecrime.agency</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 1 May 2019 11:28 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Philip Loenneker <<a href="mailto:Philip.Loenneker@tasmanet.com.au" target="_blank">Philip.Loenneker@tasmanet.com.au</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Nathan Brookfield <<a href="mailto:Nathan.Brookfield@simtronic.com.au" target="_blank">Nathan.Brookfield@simtronic.com.au</a>>; <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>> <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] FTTC<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="color:#20497d">Skeeve Stevens - Director - Future Crime Agency<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 9:01 AM Philip Loenneker <<a href="mailto:Philip.Loenneker@tasmanet.com.au" target="_blank">Philip.Loenneker@tasmanet.com.au</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I remember asking them this same question, and I *<b>think</b>* they said you can, but I couldn’t see it in my notes… logic says that any copper pair could be used for FttC, however
since they have gear in the pits that handle a limited number of services each, they may limit the number of services per premises. Obviously MDU would be a special case and should use FttB.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I do have a note that ordering FttC on inactive copper pairs has the same fees as FttN, which is around $300 once-off.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Regards,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">Philip Loenneker | Network Engineer</span></b><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#ed7d31"> | TasmaNet</span></b><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Skeeve Stevens <<a href="mailto:ausnog@futurecrime.agency" target="_blank">ausnog@futurecrime.agency</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 1 May 2019 3:02 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Philip Loenneker <<a href="mailto:Philip.Loenneker@tasmanet.com.au" target="_blank">Philip.Loenneker@tasmanet.com.au</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Nathan Brookfield <<a href="mailto:Nathan.Brookfield@simtronic.com.au" target="_blank">Nathan.Brookfield@simtronic.com.au</a>>; <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>> <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] FTTC</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Is it possible to order more than one lead-in?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.nbnco.com.au/residential/learn/network-technology/fibre-to-the-curb-explained-fttc" target="_blank">https://www.nbnco.com.au/residential/learn/network-technology/fibre-to-the-curb-explained-fttc</a><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">But basically what Nathan said. You only get 1 ethernet port.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] FTTC</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">FTTC is VDSL to the DPU but the customer gets an Ethernet hand-off.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> [AusNOG] FTTC</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">FTTC... what actually is it? VDSL?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">Can it support multiple services?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">What sort of speeds can be attained on the NBN FTTC?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">I understand that many Optus Cable people are being converted over to FTTC although it isn't entirely clear how this works.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">Thanks</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#20497d">...Skeeve</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#20497d">Skeeve Stevens - Director - Future Crime Agency</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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</blockquote></div></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="courier new, monospace">Jamie Lovick <-> IT Consultant <-> AU <-> +61-4-1479-1681</font></div><div><font face="Courier New"> -> US <-> +1-8018-4-52643 (JAMIE)</font></div><div><font face="Courier New"> -> FR <-> +33-9-7073-0340</font></div>
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