<div dir="ltr">as a current optus cable customer who now has a hole in his driveway... i can confirm this is the case.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 3:10 PM Peter Fern <<a href="mailto:ausnog@0xc0dedbad.com">ausnog@0xc0dedbad.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="gmail-m_5797220354505920481moz-cite-prefix">Wasn't the Optus Cable infrastructure
essentially deemed beyond recovery after wasting buckets of money
on it, and so those areas are being rolled FttC from scratch?<br>
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<div class="gmail-m_5797220354505920481moz-cite-prefix">On 1/5/19 12:31 pm, Philip Loenneker
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Do
you mean HFC?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)" lang="EN-US">Philip
Loenneker | Network Engineer</span></b><b><span style="color:rgb(237,125,49)" lang="EN-US">
| TasmaNet<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Skeeve Stevens
<a class="gmail-m_5797220354505920481moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ausnog@futurecrime.agency" target="_blank"><ausnog@futurecrime.agency></a>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 1 May 2019 11:28 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Philip Loenneker
<a class="gmail-m_5797220354505920481moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Philip.Loenneker@tasmanet.com.au" target="_blank"><Philip.Loenneker@tasmanet.com.au></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Nathan Brookfield
<a class="gmail-m_5797220354505920481moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Nathan.Brookfield@simtronic.com.au" target="_blank"><Nathan.Brookfield@simtronic.com.au></a>;
<a class="gmail-m_5797220354505920481moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank"><ausnog@lists.ausnog.net></a>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] FTTC<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">How do you think the Optus Cable
infrastructure integrated with the FTTC?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span style="color:rgb(32,73,125)">...Skeeve<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span style="color:rgb(32,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span style="color:rgb(32,73,125)">--<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span style="color:rgb(32,73,125)">Skeeve Stevens - Director -
Future Crime Agency<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(32,73,125)">Email: </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><a href="mailto:skeeve@futurecrime.agency" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(17,85,204)">skeeve@futurecrime.agency</span></a> <span style="color:rgb(32,73,125)">; </span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(32,73,125)">Skype:
skeeve</span><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 9:01 AM Philip
Loenneker <<a href="mailto:Philip.Loenneker@tasmanet.com.au" target="_blank">Philip.Loenneker@tasmanet.com.au</a>>
wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I
remember asking them this same question, and I *<b>think</b>*
they said you can, but I couldn’t see it in my notes…
logic says that any copper pair could be used for
FttC, however since they have gear in the pits that
handle a limited number of services each, they may
limit the number of services per premises. Obviously
MDU would be a special case and should use FttB.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I
do have a note that ordering FttC on inactive copper
pairs has the same fees as FttN, which is around $300
once-off.
<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Regards,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)" lang="EN-US">Philip
Loenneker | Network Engineer</span></b><b><span style="color:rgb(237,125,49)" lang="EN-US"> | TasmaNet</span></b><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US">
Skeeve Stevens <<a href="mailto:ausnog@futurecrime.agency" target="_blank">ausnog@futurecrime.agency</a>>
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 1 May 2019 3:02 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Philip Loenneker <<a href="mailto:Philip.Loenneker@tasmanet.com.au" target="_blank">Philip.Loenneker@tasmanet.com.au</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Nathan Brookfield <<a href="mailto:Nathan.Brookfield@simtronic.com.au" target="_blank">Nathan.Brookfield@simtronic.com.au</a>>;
<<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>>
<<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] FTTC</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Is
it possible to order more than one lead-in?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span style="color:rgb(32,73,125)">...Skeeve</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span style="color:rgb(32,73,125)"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span style="color:rgb(32,73,125)">--</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span style="color:rgb(32,73,125)">Skeeve Stevens -
Director - Future Crime Agency</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(32,73,125)">Email: </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><a href="mailto:skeeve@futurecrime.agency" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(17,85,204)">skeeve@futurecrime.agency</span></a> <span style="color:rgb(32,73,125)">; </span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(32,73,125)">Skype:
skeeve</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(32,73,125)">Website: <a href="http://futurecrime.agency/" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(17,85,204)">futurecrime.agency</span></a> </span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(32,73,125)">;
Twitter: </span><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><a href="https://twitter.com/_futurecrime" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(17,85,204)">@_FutureCrime</span></a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"> <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On
Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 9:28 AM Philip Loenneker
<<a href="mailto:Philip.Loenneker@tasmanet.com.au" target="_blank">Philip.Loenneker@tasmanet.com.au</a>>
wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">From
the horses mouth…<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.nbnco.com.au/residential/learn/network-technology/fibre-to-the-curb-explained-fttc" target="_blank">https://www.nbnco.com.au/residential/learn/network-technology/fibre-to-the-curb-explained-fttc</a><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">But
basically what Nathan said. You only get 1
ethernet port.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Regards,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)" lang="EN-US">Philip
Loenneker | Network Engineer</span></b><b><span style="color:rgb(237,125,49)" lang="EN-US">
| TasmaNet</span></b><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:gray" lang="EN-US">40-50 Innovation Drive,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:gray" lang="EN-US">P: 1300 792 711</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> AusNOG <<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Nathan
Brookfield<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 29 April 2019
11:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Skeeve Stevens <<a href="mailto:ausnog@futurecrime.agency" target="_blank">ausnog@futurecrime.agency</a>>;
<<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] FTTC</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">FTTC is VDSL to the DPU but
the customer gets an Ethernet hand-off.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)" lang="EN-US">Kindest Regards,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(54,95,145)" lang="EN-US">Nathan Brookfield (VK2NAB)</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> [AusNOG] FTTC</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;background:white" lang="EN-US">Hey all,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">FTTC... what actually
is it? VDSL?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">Can it support
multiple services?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">What sort of speeds
can be attained on the NBN FTTC?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">I understand that
many Optus Cable people are being
converted over to FTTC although it
isn't entirely clear how this
works.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">Any ideas?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12pt" lang="EN-US">Thanks</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><br clear="all">
</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span style="color:rgb(32,73,125)" lang="EN-US">...Skeeve</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span style="color:rgb(32,73,125)" lang="EN-US"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span style="color:rgb(32,73,125)" lang="EN-US">--</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span style="color:rgb(32,73,125)" lang="EN-US">Skeeve Stevens -
Director - Future Crime Agency</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(32,73,125)" lang="EN-US">Email: </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" lang="EN-US"><a href="mailto:skeeve@futurecrime.agency" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(17,85,204)">skeeve@futurecrime.agency</span></a> <span style="color:rgb(32,73,125)">; </span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(32,73,125)" lang="EN-US">Skype: skeeve</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(32,73,125)" lang="EN-US">Website: <a href="http://futurecrime.agency/" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(17,85,204)">futurecrime.agency</span></a> </span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(32,73,125)" lang="EN-US">; Twitter: </span><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif" lang="EN-US"><a href="https://twitter.com/_futurecrime" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(17,85,204)">@_FutureCrime</span></a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
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