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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I remember asking them this same question, and I *<b>think</b>* they said you can, but I couldn’t see it in my notes… logic says that any copper pair could be used for FttC, however since they have
 gear in the pits that handle a limited number of services each, they may limit the number of services per premises. Obviously MDU would be a special case and should use FttB.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I do have a note that ordering FttC on inactive copper pairs has the same fees as FttN, which is around $300 once-off.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:JA">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Skeeve Stevens <ausnog@futurecrime.agency>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 1 May 2019 3:02 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Philip Loenneker <Philip.Loenneker@tasmanet.com.au><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield@simtronic.com.au>; <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net> <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] FTTC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Is it possible to order more than one lead-in?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="color:#20497D">...Skeeve<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="color:#20497D">Skeeve Stevens - Director - Future Crime Agency<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#20497D">Email: </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><a href="mailto:skeeve@futurecrime.agency" target="_blank"><span style="color:#1155CC">skeeve@futurecrime.agency</span></a> <span style="color:#20497D">; </span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#20497D">Skype:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#20497D">Website: <a href="http://futurecrime.agency/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#1155CC">futurecrime.agency</span></a> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#20497D">;
 Twitter: </span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><a href="https://twitter.com/_futurecrime" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1155CC">@_FutureCrime</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#20497D">Linkedin: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve" target="_blank"><span style="color:#1155CC">/in/skeeve</span></a> ; Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/futurecrimeagency" target="_blank"><span style="color:#1155CC">FutureCrimeAgency</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 9:28 AM Philip Loenneker <<a href="mailto:Philip.Loenneker@tasmanet.com.au">Philip.Loenneker@tasmanet.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">From the horses mouth…<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><a href="https://www.nbnco.com.au/residential/learn/network-technology/fibre-to-the-curb-explained-fttc" target="_blank">https://www.nbnco.com.au/residential/learn/network-technology/fibre-to-the-curb-explained-fttc</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">But basically what Nathan said. You only get 1 ethernet port.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Philip Loenneker | Network Engineer</span></b><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#ED7D31"> | TasmaNet</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:gray">40-50 Innovation Drive, Dowsing Point, Tas 7010, Australia</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> AusNOG <<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Nathan Brookfield<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 29 April 2019 11:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Skeeve Stevens <<a href="mailto:ausnog@futurecrime.agency" target="_blank">ausnog@futurecrime.agency</a>>; <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>> <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] FTTC</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">FTTC is VDSL to the DPU but the customer gets an Ethernet hand-off.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">Kindest Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#365F91">Nathan Brookfield (VK2NAB)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> AusNOG <<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Skeeve Stevens<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 29, 2019 10:43 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>> <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [AusNOG] FTTC</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">FTTC... what actually is it? VDSL?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">Can it support multiple services?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">What sort of speeds can be attained on the NBN FTTC?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">I understand that many Optus Cable people are being converted over to FTTC although it isn't entirely clear how this works.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#20497D">Skeeve Stevens - Director - Future Crime Agency</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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