<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Thread out.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Kind regards<div class="gmail-yj6qo gmail-ajU"><div id="gmail-:wq" class="gmail-ajR" tabindex="0"><img class="gmail-ajT" src="https://ssl.gstatic.com/ui/v1/icons/mail/images/cleardot.gif"></div></div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-HOEnZb gmail-adL">Paul Wilkins</span></span></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 at 12:03, <<a href="mailto:andy@coastalaudio.com.au">andy@coastalaudio.com.au</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-AU"><div class="gmail-m_3456065940764660656WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span>OK…<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span>Tin Eye is for image recognition, not video and it’s more concerned with duplication…<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span>From a quick read of their site, it doesn’t appear to be a neural network or AI…<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span>Did you bother reading my last post about scalability?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span>Even if you used an algorithm like NSFW, it will scan one image every 30 seconds…<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span>So at 25fps, that’s 749 images that could contain something potentially “nasty”…<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span>Your argument is so flawed that it’s dangerous, especially given the Luddites currently in power…<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span>Again, who is going to pay for the development of said “fingerprinting” and infrastructure?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span>The government? They screamed “financial crisis” and now 6 years later the debt has tripled…<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span>They have based their PROJECTIONS of a surplus on the volatile commodities market…<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span>What could possibly go wrong?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span>Andy<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> AusNOG <<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Wilkins<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 10 April 2019 11:17 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] More legislative interventions<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://tineye.com/search/f274c3b49edcca9a6d83994a43629445a5ea5a23/" target="_blank">https://tineye.com/search/f274c3b49edcca9a6d83994a43629445a5ea5a23/</a><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 at 11:12, Matt Palmer <<a href="mailto:mpalmer@hezmatt.org" target="_blank">mpalmer@hezmatt.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204,204,204);border-style:none none none solid;border-width:medium medium medium 1pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin:5pt 0cm 5pt 4.8pt"><p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 10:56:12AM +1000, Paul Wilkins wrote:<br>> Now I would say that for instance, if the eSecurity Director posts the CRC<br>> of a file as being "abhorrent violent" content, and your company doesn't<br>> expeditiously take down that material, expect problems down the pike. I<br>> doubt a CRC check alone is sufficient.<br><br>Given that a CRC changes if you modify any bit of the file, and common CRC<br>implementations have a space of either 16 or 32 bits (65,536 and ~4 billion<br>possible values, respectively), "insufficient" doesn't even begin to<br>describe such a scheme.<br><br>> I'd say a fingerprinting system to<br>> match altered copies of the subject file should be implemented.<br><br>Once again with this magical "figerprinting" scheme. Nothing like what<br>you're describing actually exists. Further, there's no point in each<br>company coming up with their own scheme for calculating this magical<br>fingerprint, because if the eSecurity Director wants to say "take down<br>everything like this fingerprint" they have to use the *same* scheme to come<br>up with the same fingerprint.<br><br>> It doesn't have to work in all cases.<br><br>It won't work in *any* case.<br><br>> I am not a lawyer. This is not expert advice.<br><br>Yes, I think that is quite evident.<br><br>- Matt<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>AusNOG mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><u></u><u></u></p></blockquote></div></div><div id="gmail-m_3456065940764660656DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br>
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