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<div style="direction: ltr;">This is just a recent example of why carriers are, or at least should becoming more concerned about keeping location of their fibre infrastructure confidential. It won’t necessarily stop people mapping it (and other nefarious things),
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<div style="direction: ltr;">https://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/01/russia-spies-espionage-trump-239003</div>
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<div style="direction: ltr;">At least there is a potential client for you here :)</div>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="dir="ltr""><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Mehmet Akcin <mehmet@akcin.net><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 1, 2018 2:28 am<br>
<b>To:</b> bevan@slattery.net.au<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Gavin Tweedie; <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net><br>
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<div>I was always told that is the case and when I asked my prior vendors in australia they kindly gave me these , so I would really love to see 1) the law? 2) restrictions related to this anywhere public I can read to educate myself.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 11:58 AM Bevan Slattery <<a href="mailto:bevan@slattery.net.au">bevan@slattery.net.au</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div style="direction:ltr">I can certainly say that of Superloop anyway.</div>
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<div id="m_-6438185942204634704divRplyFwdMsg" dir="dir="ltr""><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> AusNOG <<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>>
on behalf of Mehmet Akcin <<a href="mailto:mehmet@akcin.net" target="_blank">mehmet@akcin.net</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 7, 2018 11:13 am<br>
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O.K. :) <br>
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thank you for the correction Gavin <br>
On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 5:10 PM Gavin Tweedie <<a href="mailto:gavin.tweedie@megaport.com" target="_blank">gavin.tweedie@megaport.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> FYI <br>
> <br>
> TPG does own AAPT <br>
> Superloop does not own Megaport <br>
> <br>
> Gavin <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On Wed, 7 Nov 2018 at 09:02, Mehmet Akcin <<a href="mailto:mehmet@akcin.net" target="_blank">mehmet@akcin.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>> thank you someone who pinged me privately and told me some contacts <br>
>> from various companies who have fibre on the ground. We are in the <br>
>> process of building a self service portal however, if you want to send <br>
>> me high level KMZs (we need them to be good but not perfectly accurate <br>
>> (like manhole by manhole accurate is not needed for our purpose) <br>
>> <br>
>> if you are working for <br>
>> <br>
>> - Superloop (also owns Megaport) <br>
>> - Vocus <br>
>> - AARNet <br>
>> - Telstra <br>
>> - Optus <br>
>> - AAPT <br>
>> - TPG <br>
>> <br>
>> and want to share - please contact me offlist ;) and we will put your <br>
>> KMZs on <a href="http://www.networkatlas.org" target="_blank">www.networkatlas.org</a><br>
>> On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 3:51 PM Mehmet Akcin <<a href="mailto:mehmet@akcin.net" target="_blank">mehmet@akcin.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > <br>
>> > Cameron, We are working on it. We hope that soon we will have some <br>
>> > terrestrial data available. I honestly think it will be a miracle if <br>
>> > we can get anyone to share though, because i think there are some <br>
>> > major single points of failure in the infrastructure and operators <br>
>> > don't want to share that. <br>
>> > On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 1:32 PM Cameron Murray <<a href="mailto:cameron.murray@gmail.com" target="_blank">cameron.murray@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > > <br>
>> > > Page works for me - Interesting clicking around. <br>
>> > > <br>
>> > > It would be great to see some terrestrial/over-land data added for Australia similar to the USA.<br>
>> > > <br>
>> > > On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 5:12 AM Damien Gardner Jnr <<a href="mailto:rendrag@rendrag.net" target="_blank">rendrag@rendrag.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > >> <br>
>> > >> Seems to be offline? (<a href="http://www.networkatlas.org" target="_blank">www.networkatlas.org</a> redirects to<a href="http://dev.networkatlas.org" target="_blank">dev.networkatlas.org</a> which is giving connection refused..)<br>
>> > >> <br>
>> > >> What's it meant to do? :) <br>
>> > >> <br>
>> > >> On Wed, 7 Nov 2018 at 04:00, Mehmet Akcin <<a href="mailto:mehmet@akcin.net" target="_blank">mehmet@akcin.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > >>> <br>
>> > >>> Hello everyone, <br>
>> > >>> <br>
>> > >>> We wanted to share several updates about our project Network Atlas <br>
>> > >>> with you. First of all we are very excited to announce now our page <br>
>> > >>> has many more features (and more to come) and hosted in a much more <br>
>> > >>> robust platform at <a href="http://www.networkatlas.org" target="_blank">
www.networkatlas.org</a> <br>
>> > >>> <br>
>> > >>> We've recently made a press release about our project , <br>
>> > >>> <a href="https://finance.yahoo.com/news/network-atlas-launches-map-global-221500875.html" target="_blank">
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/network-atlas-launches-map-global-221500875.html</a><br>
>> > >>> <br>
>> > >>> Now we are working on two major tracks <br>
>> > >>> <br>
>> > >>> 1) Raising funds via sponsorship and our kickstarter to be able to <br>
>> > >>> afford future of developments. <br>
>> > >>> 2) Talking to engineers , network professionals to understand what <br>
>> > >>> would make this tool better everyone. <br>
>> > >>> <br>
>> > >>> As you might be already aware we have a slack channel you can join and <br>
>> > >>> discuss/help the project. here is the slack channel link - <br>
>> > >>> <a href="https://join.slack.com/t/kapany/shared_invite/enQtNDUwOTIzMDEwODM4LWE5NjNmOWRkMmQxYmYzYWU1YmI0ZmEwNWVlODllY2U1MGU5OTVhZDk4YjA1ZmFiN2VhYWI5ZWUyMGQ0YjU0OTc" target="_blank">
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>> > >>> <br>
>> > >>> Overall we need network operators who have access to <br>
>> > >>> networks/fibre/route information and operational status as we are <br>
>> > >>> developing our self service portal which via GUI and API will enable <br>
>> > >>> you to be able to provide status of global fibre optic cables, and <br>
>> > >>> receive updates the same way. <br>
>> > >>> <br>
>> > >>> For more information about this project, and other ideas feel free to <br>
>> > >>> join our slack or email me directly at <a href="mailto:mehmet@networkatlas.org" target="_blank">
mehmet@networkatlas.org</a> <br>
>> > >>> <br>
>> > >>> thank you and we will follow up with further updates in December 2018! <br>
>> > >>> We are very excited how far we came so far providing more visibility <br>
>> > >>> already ( even though we are just in demo state ) <br>
>> > >>> <br>
>> > >>> Mehmet <br>
>> > >>> Network Atlas <br>
>> > >>> <a href="https://angel.co/mhmtkcn" target="_blank">https://angel.co/mhmtkcn</a><br>
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>> > >> -- <br>
>> > >> <br>
>> > >> Damien Gardner Jnr <br>
>> > >> VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust <br>
>> > >> <a href="mailto:rendrag@rendrag.net" target="_blank">rendrag@rendrag.net</a> -<a href="http://www.rendrag.net/" target="_blank">http://www.rendrag.net/</a>
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>> > >> -- <br>
>> > >> We rode on the winds of the rising storm, <br>
>> > >> We ran to the sounds of thunder. <br>
>> > >> We danced among the lightning bolts, <br>
>> > >> and tore the world asunder <br>
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