<div dir="ltr"><div style="margin-left:40px">"Given that Dutton was straight on the
      band wagon within hours of the events in Melbourne last week. Im
      sure this will be railroaded through and any opposition will be
      called out as "weak national security policy".  I think the
      chances of this not going though as first read now is gone from
      slim to none."</div><div><br></div><div>Matt,</div><div>I can't see that Parliament, collectively, is that reckless. First, since Phelp's won Wentworth, the Bill can't pass the Lower House without Labor complicity. If Labor passes it in the Lower House, it means they endorse the policy. I really think there's going to be a roadblock there. Then there was always the problem of numbers in the Upper House. They need I think one? crossbencher to get over the line.</div><div><br></div><div>All of which flies in the face of serious weight of industry and human rights organisations saying this is a very bad idea - including the PJCHR. This is no longer just a question of numbers, those who support this Bill will be held responsible by history.<br></div><div><br></div><div><p><font size="2">Internet Architecture Board (IAB):<a href="https://www.aph.gov.au/DocumentStore.ashx?id=be04f858-96b3-4eb9-bab6-22a60c0dffdd&subId=660942">https://www.aph.gov.au/DocumentStore.ashx?id=be04f858-96b3-4eb9-bab6-22a60c0dffdd&subId=660942</a><br>
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          Law Council of Australia: <a href="https://www.aph.gov.au/DocumentStore.ashx?id=859d9cda-0f99-4bef-994f-edc6006c87bf&subId=661321">https://www.aph.gov.au/DocumentStore.ashx?id=859d9cda-0f99-4bef-994f-edc6006c87bf&subId=661321</a><br>
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          PJCHR,starts @ p24: <a href="https://www.aph.gov.au/%7E/media/Committees/Senate/committee/humanrights_ctte/reports/2018/Report%2011/c01.pdf?la=en">https://www.aph.gov.au/~/media/Committees/Senate/committee/humanrights_ctte/reports/2018/Report%2011/c01.pdf?la=en</a><br>
          United Nations Special Rapporteur on the right to privacy: <a href="https://www.aph.gov.au/DocumentStore.ashx?id=8012483f-e421-41a7-8bd4-1e8eb5eb39eb&subId=661745">https://www.aph.gov.au/DocumentStore.ashx?id=8012483f-e421-41a7-8bd4-1e8eb5eb39eb&subId=661745</a><br></font></p><p><br></p><p><font size="2">Kind regards</font></p><p><font size="2"><br></font></p><p><font size="2">Paul Wilkins</font><br></p><p><font size="2"></font></p></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 at 10:47, Mark Andrews <<a href="mailto:marka@isc.org">marka@isc.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">There was at-least 3 weeks notice of a meeting tomorrow in Sydney even if the exact time and place where not known.  I would have expected anyone planning to attend would have blocked out the day.<br>
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> On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 at 16:20, Paul Wilkins <<a href="mailto:paulwilkins369@gmail.com" target="_blank">paulwilkins369@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
 New PJCIS Public Hearings<br>
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16 Nov 2018: Sydney, NSW<br>
30 Nov 2018: Canberra, ACT<br>
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> On 15 Nov 2018, at 10:41 am, Nathan Brookfield <<a href="mailto:Nathan.Brookfield@simtronic.com.au" target="_blank">Nathan.Brookfield@simtronic.com.au</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Could they possibly give less notice.... Unbelievable!<br>
> <br>
> Nathan Brookfield<br>
> Chief Executive Officer<br>
> <br>
> Simtronic Technologies Pty Ltd<br>
> <a href="http://www.simtronic.com.au" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.simtronic.com.au</a><br>
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Mark Andrews, ISC<br>
1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia<br>
PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742              INTERNET: <a href="mailto:marka@isc.org" target="_blank">marka@isc.org</a><br>
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