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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">This appears to be orchestrated to
      allow Vocus in to the gang so the ACCC will settle down.  It seems
      to be they would be the people likely to Qualify and not really
      anyone else. <br>
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      Matt<br>
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      On 24/10/18 9:35 am, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote:<br>
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        <div>I think it'd be brave to say that.<br>
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          <div dir="ltr">On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 8:55 AM Cameron Murray
            <<a href="mailto:cameron.murray@gmail.com"
              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">cameron.murray@gmail.com</a>>
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              <div dir="ltr">On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 8:24 AM Matthew
                Moyle-Croft <<a href="mailto:mmc@mmc.com.au"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">mmc@mmc.com.au</a>>
                wrote:<br>
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                  <div>Looking at 3.6:</div>
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                      The peering partner's nationally deployed
                      resilient Internet backbone network should </div>
                    <div style="font-size:16.6px;font-family:sans-serif">operate
                      on circuits of at least 50% of Telstra’s Internet
                      backbone network from Perth </div>
                    <div style="font-size:16.6px;font-family:sans-serif">to
                      Brisbane that is dedicated to public Internet
                      traffic.</div>
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                    <div style="font-size:16.6px;font-family:sans-serif">I'd
                      ask who qualifies at all? <br>
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                      <div>On 24 Oct 2018, at 7:05 am, John Edwards <<a
                          href="mailto:jaedwards@gmail.com"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jaedwards@gmail.com</a>>
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                                <div dir="ltr">Links to peering docs
                                  from the ACCC web site:
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                                  <div><a
href="https://www.telstrawholesale.com.au/content/dam/tw/products/data_ip/Telstra%20Wholesale%20Internet1/Telstra%20Peering%20Guidelines.pdf"
                                      target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.telstrawholesale.com.au/content/dam/tw/products/data_ip/Telstra%20Wholesale%20Internet1/Telstra%20Peering%20Guidelines.pdf</a><br>
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                                  <div><a
                                      href="https://www.tpg.com.au/peering-guidelines"
                                      target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.tpg.com.au/peering-guidelines</a><br>
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                                  <div><a
href="https://www.optus.com.au/content/dam/optus/documents/wholesale/fixed/Optus%20IP%20Interconnect%20Policy%20-%20Summary_2018.pdf"
                                      target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.optus.com.au/content/dam/optus/documents/wholesale/fixed/Optus%20IP%20Interconnect%20Policy%20-%20Summary_2018.pdf</a><br>
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                                  <div><a
                                      href="http://www.verizonenterprise.com/terms/peering/"
                                      target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.verizonenterprise.com/terms/peering/</a><br>
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                                  <div>These things do have a tendency
                                    to disappear from web sites over
                                    time so if you aspire to one day
                                    peer with the big guys I recommend
                                    that you save a copy of each of
                                    these</div>
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                                  <div>The Telstra and TPG documents
                                    mention "Sender Keep All", which
                                    implies that the IP itself is "free"</div>
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                                  <div>The Telstra standard for peering
                                    is exclusive - requiring
                                    interconnection in Darwin AND
                                    Hobart, which probably rules out
                                    most of the International content
                                    providers that setup in Sydney</div>
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                                  <div>John</div>
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                          <div dir="ltr">On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 at 00:56,
                            Bradley Amm <<a
                              href="mailto:brad@bradleyamm.com"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">brad@bradleyamm.com</a>>
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href="https://www.crn.com.au/news/optus-telstra-tpg-publish-peering-criteria-for-interested-isps-514364"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.crn.com.au/news/optus-telstra-tpg-publish-peering-criteria-for-interested-isps-514364</a><br>
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href="https://www.computerworld.com.au/article/648621/no-need-regulate-isp-peering-arrangements-accc-says/"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.computerworld.com.au/article/648621/no-need-regulate-isp-peering-arrangements-accc-says/</a><br>
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                                say if its paid or settlement free<br>
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                                  <a href="https://aka.ms/ghei36"
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