<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">DIGI's submission (Amazon, Facebook, Google, Oath, and Twitter) has just appeared:</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.aph.gov.au/DocumentStore.ashx?id=d48c3c35-221d-4544-a7d7-109a82c72dc1&subId=661549">https://www.aph.gov.au/DocumentStore.ashx?id=d48c3c35-221d-4544-a7d7-109a82c72dc1&subId=661549</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div style="margin-left:40px">On August 14, 2018, the Government released for Public Exposure a draft of the Telecommunications and Other Legislation Amendment (Assistance and Access) Bill 2018 (the “Bill”) together with an Exposure Document, to which DIGI made a submission (attached). A revised Bill was introduced to Parliament ten days following the close of submissions, with only minor amendments that fail to address its potential impacts on public safety, cybersecurity, privacy and human rights, raising concern among industry, consumer and civil society groups.<br></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 at 11:30, Paul Wilkins <<a href="mailto:paulwilkins369@gmail.com">paulwilkins369@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>The PJCHR express extensive concerns with the bill. <br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.aph.gov.au/~/media/Committees/Senate/committee/humanrights_ctte/reports/2018/Report%2011/c01.pdf?la=en" target="_blank">https://www.aph.gov.au/~/media/Committees/Senate/committee/humanrights_ctte/reports/2018/Report%2011/c01.pdf?la=en</a></div><div><br></div><div>The following demonstrates a posture where they will likely oppose the bill without further safeguards:</div><div><br></div><div style="margin-left:40px">1.109 Another relevant factor in assessing whether a measure is proportionate is whether there is the possibility of oversight and the availability of review. The power to give a technical assistance notice or request, or technical capability notice, is not exercised by a judge, nor does a judge supervise its application. Section 317ZFA provides a discretionary power to a court, in relation to proceedings before it, to make such orders as the court considers appropriate in relation to the disclosure, protection, storage, handling or destruction of technical assistance information, if the court is satisfied that it is in the public interest. The bill does not otherwise provide for court involvement in the process of giving a technical assistance notice or request, or technical capability notice. The bill additionally seeks to amend the Administrative Decisions (Judicial Review) Act 1977 (ADJR Act) to exclude decisions under Part 15 of the Telecommunications Act (which would include a decision to issue a technical assistance notice or request, or technical capability notice) from judicial review under the ADJR Act. 47 In these circumstances, further information from the minister as the adequacy of the safeguards in terms of oversight and review would assist in determining the proportionality of the measures.</div><div><br></div><div><span class="m_2509739700581386726gmail-im"><div dir="ltr"><div>Kind regards</div><div class="m_2509739700581386726gmail-m_-4266564650646501771gmail-yj6qo m_2509739700581386726gmail-m_-4266564650646501771gmail-ajU"><div id="m_2509739700581386726gmail-m_-4266564650646501771gmail-:1tt" class="m_2509739700581386726gmail-m_-4266564650646501771gmail-ajR"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><img class="m_2509739700581386726gmail-m_-4266564650646501771gmail-ajT m_2509739700581386726gmail-CToWUd" src="https://ssl.gstatic.com/ui/v1/icons/mail/images/cleardot.gif"></span></div></div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="m_2509739700581386726gmail-m_-4266564650646501771gmail-HOEnZb m_2509739700581386726gmail-m_-4266564650646501771gmail-adL"><div>Paul Wilkins</div></span></span></div></span></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 at 15:12, Paul Wilkins <<a href="mailto:paulwilkins369@gmail.com" target="_blank">paulwilkins369@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">21 October AEC had received 6890 postal votes out of 12,788 issued. Today, received postal votes is 7,789. Sharma is trailing by 1,552. So I'm calling it a Phelps' win and we will have minority government.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Phelps will win by at least 500 votes so no recount.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><div>Kind regards</div><div class="m_2509739700581386726m_-4266564650646501771gmail-yj6qo m_2509739700581386726m_-4266564650646501771gmail-ajU"><div id="m_2509739700581386726m_-4266564650646501771gmail-:1tt" class="m_2509739700581386726m_-4266564650646501771gmail-ajR"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><img class="m_2509739700581386726m_-4266564650646501771gmail-ajT" src="https://ssl.gstatic.com/ui/v1/icons/mail/images/cleardot.gif"></span></div></div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="m_2509739700581386726m_-4266564650646501771gmail-HOEnZb m_2509739700581386726m_-4266564650646501771gmail-adL"><div></div><div>Paul Wilkins</div></span></span></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 at 18:19, Paul Wilkins <<a href="mailto:paulwilkins369@gmail.com" target="_blank">paulwilkins369@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Transcript of public hearing 19th October:</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="https://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;query=Id%3A%22committees%2Fcommjnt%2F2a1771c8-f314-43f2-b9b0-cd09ad8123ae%2F0000%22" target="_blank">https://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;query=Id%3A%22committees%2Fcommjnt%2F2a1771c8-f314-43f2-b9b0-cd09ad8123ae%2F0000%22</a><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 at 16:46, Christian Heinrich <<a href="mailto:christian.heinrich@cmlh.id.au" target="_blank">christian.heinrich@cmlh.id.au</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Paul,<br>
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On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 2:12 PM Paul Wilkins <<a href="mailto:paulwilkins369@gmail.com" target="_blank">paulwilkins369@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Except that where subject to an order under 317j to conceal the existence of a TCN/TAN forms part of the terms.<br>
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For PCI-DSS Requirement 4 Telstra [as an example I don't recommend]<br>
have mandated that their customer is responsible for both the<br>
infrastructure and software [as a service] within<br>
<a href="https://www.telstra.com.au/content/dam/tcom/personal/consumer-advice/pdf/business-a-full/cloud-h.pdf" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.telstra.com.au/content/dam/tcom/personal/consumer-advice/pdf/business-a-full/cloud-h.pdf</a><br>
and are therefore unable to assist with the implementation of the<br>
TCN/TAN.<br>
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Regards,<br>
Christian Heinrich<br>
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<a href="http://cmlh.id.au/contact" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://cmlh.id.au/contact</a><br>
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