<div dir="ltr">Yeah, I need to work out the best angle with the PJCIS if we do get an invite...</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 17:37, Paul Wilkins <<a href="mailto:paulwilkins369@gmail.com">paulwilkins369@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Robert,</div><div>When in Canberra, don't look for any support from PJCIS Chairman Andrew Hastie, who is a Dutton supporter, and one of the leading conspirators in rolling Turnbull.</div><div><br></div><div>Kind regards</div><div><br></div><div>Paul Wilkins<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 12:45, Robert Hudson <<a href="mailto:hudrob@gmail.com" target="_blank">hudrob@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">PJCIS is listing 37 submissions - way down on the 343 that were made to the Department of Home Affairs, but hopefully they'll actually get read and considered this time around.<div><br></div><div>I tried to stick to ITPA's area of expertise (tehnology) in the hope that other parties more qualified than us have focused on areas outside of technology - I have strong opinions in those areas, but thought it best to let experts make the points there. I also made it clear to the PJCIS that ITPA wishes to be invited to the public hearing, we'll see how that goes.</div><div><br>Regards,</div><div><br>Robert</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 10:26, Paul Wilkins <<a href="mailto:paulwilkins369@gmail.com" target="_blank">paulwilkins369@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Thanks Rob,</div><div><br></div><div>I want to say thanks to everyone who's made the effort for what's a pretty thankless and costly investment of time - trying to convey a message that Home Affairs appear intent to ignore. The Home Affairs consultation was a wash. Let's hope PJCIS actually engage with the process.</div><div><br></div><div>However if you don't engage with the process, you can't complain about the results, so thanks again to those who've made submissions (Home Affairs and then again for PJCIS) to see that our industry's needs get represented and, if not acknowledged, are at least on the public record to hold Home Affairs to account for what's some pretty imperious unilateralism and shabby disregard for the industry's and the public's concerns and best interests.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Kind regards</div><div><br></div><div>Paul Wilkins<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 09:46, Robert Hudson <<a href="mailto:hudrob@gmail.com" target="_blank">hudrob@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">I have just sent through my submission on behalf of ITPA. It's also published here:<div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.itpa.org.au/news/itpa-submission-pjcis-telecommunications-and-other-legislation-amendment-assistance-and-access-bill-/" target="_blank">https://www.itpa.org.au/news/itpa-submission-pjcis-telecommunications-and-other-legislation-amendment-assistance-and-access-bill-/</a><br><div><br></div><div>""</div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 17:17, Paul Wilkins <<a href="mailto:paulwilkins369@gmail.com" target="_blank">paulwilkins369@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>My submission is now up on PJCIS . Worth a read for anyone interested.<br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Joint/Intelligence_and_Security/TelcoAmendmentBill2018/Submissions" target="_blank">https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Joint/Intelligence_and_Security/TelcoAmendmentBill2018/Submissions</a></div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Kind Regards</span></div><div class="m_-2919830901627330379m_-5300044111907392380m_-3051601727040750527m_2175786780011155973m_4383210003634040630m_601591976276463361gmail-m_-5182134401339311730gmail-m_5945992466093790416gmail-yj6qo m_-2919830901627330379m_-5300044111907392380m_-3051601727040750527m_2175786780011155973m_4383210003634040630m_601591976276463361gmail-m_-5182134401339311730gmail-m_5945992466093790416gmail-ajU"><div id="m_-2919830901627330379m_-5300044111907392380m_-3051601727040750527m_2175786780011155973m_4383210003634040630m_601591976276463361gmail-:1ih" class="m_-2919830901627330379m_-5300044111907392380m_-3051601727040750527m_2175786780011155973m_4383210003634040630m_601591976276463361gmail-ajR"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><img class="m_-2919830901627330379m_-5300044111907392380m_-3051601727040750527m_2175786780011155973m_4383210003634040630m_601591976276463361gmail-m_-5182134401339311730gmail-m_5945992466093790416gmail-ajT m_-2919830901627330379m_-5300044111907392380m_-3051601727040750527m_2175786780011155973m_4383210003634040630m_601591976276463361gmail-m_-5182134401339311730gmail-CToWUd m_-2919830901627330379m_-5300044111907392380m_-3051601727040750527m_2175786780011155973m_4383210003634040630m_601591976276463361gmail-CToWUd" src="https://ssl.gstatic.com/ui/v1/icons/mail/images/cleardot.gif"></span><img class="m_-2919830901627330379m_-5300044111907392380m_-3051601727040750527m_2175786780011155973m_4383210003634040630m_601591976276463361gmail-m_-5182134401339311730gmail-ajT m_-2919830901627330379m_-5300044111907392380m_-3051601727040750527m_2175786780011155973m_4383210003634040630m_601591976276463361gmail-CToWUd" src="https://ssl.gstatic.com/ui/v1/icons/mail/images/cleardot.gif"></div></div><span class="m_-2919830901627330379m_-5300044111907392380m_-3051601727040750527m_2175786780011155973m_4383210003634040630m_601591976276463361gmail-HOEnZb m_-2919830901627330379m_-5300044111907392380m_-3051601727040750527m_2175786780011155973m_4383210003634040630m_601591976276463361gmail-adL"><font color="#888888"><span class="m_-2919830901627330379m_-5300044111907392380m_-3051601727040750527m_2175786780011155973m_4383210003634040630m_601591976276463361gmail-m_-5182134401339311730gmail-HOEnZb m_-2919830901627330379m_-5300044111907392380m_-3051601727040750527m_2175786780011155973m_4383210003634040630m_601591976276463361gmail-m_-5182134401339311730gmail-adL"><font color="#888888"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="m_-2919830901627330379m_-5300044111907392380m_-3051601727040750527m_2175786780011155973m_4383210003634040630m_601591976276463361gmail-m_-5182134401339311730gmail-m_5945992466093790416gmail-HOEnZb m_-2919830901627330379m_-5300044111907392380m_-3051601727040750527m_2175786780011155973m_4383210003634040630m_601591976276463361gmail-m_-5182134401339311730gmail-m_5945992466093790416gmail-adL"><div dir="ltr">Paul Wilkins</div></span></span></font></span></font></span></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 15:05, Paul Wilkins <<a href="mailto:paulwilkins369@gmail.com" target="_blank">paulwilkins369@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Oh ho!! Now the rush behind the bill all makes sense - so the AFP can go after whoever leaked against Dutton and his au pairs!</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/oct/11/afp-search-raids-affairs-department-peter-dutton-au-pair-visa-leaks" target="_blank">https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/oct/11/afp-search-raids-affairs-department-peter-dutton-au-pair-visa-leaks</a></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Glad we cleared that up.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Kind Regards</span></div><div class="m_-2919830901627330379m_-5300044111907392380m_-3051601727040750527m_2175786780011155973m_4383210003634040630m_601591976276463361m_-5182134401339311730gmail-m_5945992466093790416gmail-yj6qo 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class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 12:33, Paul Wilkins <<a href="mailto:paulwilkins369@gmail.com" target="_blank">paulwilkins369@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Dep't Home Affairs submission to PJCIS has turned up.<br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.aph.gov.au/DocumentStore.ashx?id=8704d357-2f09-4173-871a-f073166d4e10&subId=660956" target="_blank">https://www.aph.gov.au/DocumentStore.ashx?id=8704d357-2f09-4173-871a-f073166d4e10&subId=660956</a> <br></div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Kind Regards</span></div><div class="m_-2919830901627330379m_-5300044111907392380m_-3051601727040750527m_2175786780011155973m_4383210003634040630m_601591976276463361m_-5182134401339311730m_5945992466093790416gmail-yj6qo 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On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 12:01 PM Paul Wilkins <<a href="mailto:paulwilkins369@gmail.com" target="_blank">paulwilkins369@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Good job peeps, 24 hours before submissions close with JCIS.<br>
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There are 343 listed as of today (Thursday).<br>
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Christian Heinrich<br>
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