<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hey Mark,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cloudflare prefers you get access to 1.1.1.1 via bilat over IXs.</div><div class="">I would suggest you reach out to them at <a href="mailto:peering@cloudflare.com" class="">peering@cloudflare.com</a> </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">- Tim<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 11 Oct 2018, at 1:43 pm, Mark Dignam <<a href="mailto:mark@innaloo.net" class="">mark@innaloo.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">And now 1.1.1.1 is missing from IX Australia Perth…<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Wingdings;" class="">L</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">dctwo@peer-edge-router:~$ traceroute 1.1.1.1<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">traceroute to 1.1.1.1 (1.1.1.1), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">connect: Network is unreachable<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">it is reachable – just via Melbourne at the moment, a nice 40ms from Perth… Which I suppose is better than 8.8.8.8 at 140ms…<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>AusNOG [<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" class="">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Skeeve Stevens<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, 11 October 2018 7:54 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" class="">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>> <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" class="">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[AusNOG] Telstra Insanity?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Hey all,<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Does anyone understand this... it hurts my brain.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: "Courier New";" class="">Skeeve-Faqtory-27:~ skeeve.stevens$ traceroute 1.1.1.1</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: "Courier New";" class="">traceroute to 1.1.1.1 (1.1.1.1), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: "Courier New";" class=""> 1 x.x.x.10 (<span style="background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class="">x.x.x.10</span>) 0.949 ms 0.615 ms 0.585 ms</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: "Courier New";" class=""> 2 x.x.x.1 (<span style="background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class="">x.x.x.1</span>) 1.169 ms 1.106 ms 1.022 ms</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: "Courier New";" class=""> 3 172.18.208.9 (172.18.208.9) 19.487 ms 19.802 ms 19.576 ms</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: "Courier New";" class=""> 4 172.18.66.197 (172.18.66.197) 20.170 ms</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: "Courier New";" class=""> 172.18.66.193 (172.18.66.193) 20.538 ms 19.848 ms</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: "Courier New";" class=""> 5 <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://bundle-ether4.chw-edge901.sydney.telstra.net/" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">bundle-ether4.chw-edge901.sydney.telstra.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>(203.50.12.108) 20.093 ms 20.163 ms 21.795 ms</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: "Courier New";" class=""> 6 <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://bundle-ether2.ken-edge901.sydney.telstra.net/" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">bundle-ether2.ken-edge901.sydney.telstra.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>(203.50.11.102) 20.296 ms 19.528 ms</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: "Courier New";" class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://bundle-ether13.chw-core10.sydney.telstra.net/" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">bundle-ether13.chw-core10.sydney.telstra.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>(203.50.11.98) 21.252 ms</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: "Courier New";" class=""> 7 <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://bundle-ether1.chw-edge902.sydney.telstra.net/" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">bundle-ether1.chw-edge902.sydney.telstra.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>(203.50.11.101) 19.891 ms</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: "Courier New";" class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://bundle-ether13.ken-core10.sydney.telstra.net/" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">bundle-ether13.ken-core10.sydney.telstra.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>(203.50.11.94) 22.118 ms 21.234 ms</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: "Courier New";" class=""> 8 <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://bundle-ether2.ken-edge902.sydney.telstra.net/" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">bundle-ether2.ken-edge902.sydney.telstra.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>(203.50.11.104) 19.428 ms 20.432 ms</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: "Courier New";" class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://bundle-ether1.ken-edge902.sydney.telstra.net/" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">bundle-ether1.ken-edge902.sydney.telstra.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>(203.50.11.97) 20.719 ms</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: "Courier New";" class=""> 9 <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://clo2241682.lnk.telstra.net/" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">clo2241682.lnk.telstra.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>(144.130.174.50) 20.385 ms 20.533 ms 20.532 ms</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: "Courier New";" class="">10 one.one.one.one (1.1.1.1) 20.224 ms 19.687 ms 19.703 ms</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">It looks like it going to Chatswood, Kent St and back and forwards. It is odd.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class=""><br class="">...Skeeve<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Skeeve Stevens - Founder & Chief Architect - </span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">eintellego Networks Pty Ltd</span><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="mailto:skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com</a> ; <a href="http://www.eintellegonetworks.com/" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">www.eintellegonetworks.com</a></span><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; <a href="skype://skeeve" class="">skype://skeeve</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="http://facebook.com/eintellegonetworks" target="_blank" style="color: purple; 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