<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Careful how you go there Paul. Dutton made the following statement to the House 20th September 2018.<br></div><div><br></div><div><div style="margin-left:40px">"The government has consulted extensively with industry and the public on these measures and has made amendments to reflect the feedback in the legislation now before the parliament."<br></div><br></div><div>I suggest saving comments as to the veracity of the extensive consultation process to what can be expressed within submissions to the PJCIS, which (as long as you don't publish anywhere else) are subject to Parliamentary privilege.</div><div><br></div><div>Kind regards</div><div><br></div><div>Paul Wilkins<br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 18:22, Paul Brooks <<a href="mailto:pbrooks-ausnog@layer10.com.au">pbrooks-ausnog@layer10.com.au</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="m_2481274286153286984moz-cite-prefix">PJCIS has confirmed extra public
consultation days have been scheduled - webpage now says " An
initial Public Hearing is expected to be held on Friday, 19
October 2018. Further Public Hearings will be scheduled for late
October or early November 2018."<br>
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Contact suggests at least one extra, possibly two extra hearings.<br>
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Also, PJCIS is publishing submissions immediately as they arrive -
see
<a class="m_2481274286153286984moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Joint/Intelligence_and_Security/TelcoAmendmentBill2018/Submissions" target="_blank">https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Joint/Intelligence_and_Security/TelcoAmendmentBill2018/Submissions</a><br>
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Currently 17 submissions published by PJCIS.<br>
<br>
See
<a class="m_2481274286153286984moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://internet.org.au/news/210-open-letter-regarding-the-assistance-and-access-bill-2018" target="_blank">https://internet.org.au/news/210-open-letter-regarding-the-assistance-and-access-bill-2018</a>
for the Open Letter we sent to Minister Dutton yesterday calling
for much wider consultation, picking up material from several
submissions that Home Affairs haven't seen fit to publish yet. it
got a bit of media attention this morning.<br>
<br>
I'll be speaking about this on the final session of CommsDay
Melbourne tomorrow, if anyone onlist is attending CommsDay<br>
<br>
Paul (for Internet Australia)<br>
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On 9/10/2018 12:52 PM, Paul Wilkins wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">A reminder submissions close this Friday 12:00pm.<br>
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Also, I've had a look for the Digital Industry Group's
submission (includes Google and other industry heavyweights)
and can't find it. More to the point (*sigh*) Dep't Home
Affairs haven't published it. Does anyone have a link please?<br>
<br>
Obviously Home Affairs (who've published only 100 out of 700
legitimate submissions) appear to be deliberately stymying
public debate.<br>
<br>
Am really curious how this is going to get through the PJCIS
process. If the Liberals do as they're told, then the Bill has
wider support than just Dutton's Office. But it will be very
interesting to see where Labor draws its policy direction
from. The reach of police powers envisaged in the Bill will
find strong resistance in Labor ranks.<br>
<br>
Kind regards<br>
<br>
Paul Wilkins<br>
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<div dir="ltr">On Sat, 6 Oct 2018 at 19:34, Christian Heinrich
<<a href="mailto:christian.heinrich@cmlh.id.au" target="_blank">christian.heinrich@cmlh.id.au</a>>
wrote:<br>
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On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 10:32 AM Paul Wilkins <<a href="mailto:paulwilkins369@gmail.com" target="_blank">paulwilkins369@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
> They are conducting public consultation. Submissions
should be received by 12:00pm Friday 12 October 2018.<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.reuters.com/article/us-facebook-encryption-exclusive/exclusive-in-test-case-u-s-fails-to-force-facebook-to-wiretap-messenger-calls-sources-idUSKCN1M82K1" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.reuters.com/article/us-facebook-encryption-exclusive/exclusive-in-test-case-u-s-fails-to-force-facebook-to-wiretap-messenger-calls-sources-idUSKCN1M82K1</a><br>
<br>
There is also a NewsCorp article entitled "Would-be foreign
fighter<br>
sent back to Oz"<br>
<a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Would-be+foreign+fighter+sent+back+to+Oz%22" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Would-be+foreign+fighter+sent+back+to+Oz%22</a><br>
which is behind a paywall but the jist is that his phone was
searched<br>
prior to departing Australia with nothing incriminating found
[on his<br>
phone] if I remember correctly.<br>
<br>
<br>
-- <br>
Regards,<br>
Christian Heinrich<br>
<br>
<a href="http://cmlh.id.au/contact" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://cmlh.id.au/contact</a><br>
<a href="https://my.fullcontact.com/profile/cmlh.id.au" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://my.fullcontact.com/profile/cmlh.id.au</a><br>
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