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<div class="">David - on behalf of the moderators.</div>
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<div class="">On 9 Oct 2018, at 3:13 pm, Shanti Korporaal <<a href="mailto:shanti@eintellegonetworks.com" class="">shanti@eintellegonetworks.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div class=""><font class="">I find it amusing that a bunch of middle class (probably white) (and mostly) men with first world problems are talking about sexual harassment.</font></div>
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<div class=""><font class="">Each case is different, and most women in the tech space in the west can speak up for themselves and say when they are unhappy about any unwelcomed advances towards them - which clearly someone has and good on her. What she should
have done is told the event organiser then and there, and if super inappropriate, called them out for it then and there. I for one would have knocked them on their ass and shoved any phone with inappropriate pictures in a place they would regret.</font></div>
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<div class=""><font class="">Guys, you are all amazing and titans of the industry, please don't be brought down by garbage like this. This incident is nothing new and any woman in this industry for more than 5 minutes will know to have her defences up, fight
back and who to talk to about putting someone in their place - Bevan for one.</font></div>
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<div class=""><font class="">Ausnog events and drinks in this industry and others are awesome places to meet people, especially a good looking successful guy. I might even meet one someday myself (haha, love you babe!). </font></div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="">On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 1:26 PM dusty <<a href="mailto:dusty.au@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">dusty.au@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class="">
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<div dir="ltr" class="">On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 12:24 pm, Skeeve Stevens <<a href="mailto:skeeve%2Bausnog@eintellegonetworks.com" target="_blank" class="">skeeve+ausnog@eintellegonetworks.com</a>> wrote:<br class="">
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<div class="">There are apps for that now, save the face to face for professional relationship building.</div>
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<div class="">Imagine thinking that someone was interested in you for your skills or experience, only to find that you misread "innocent flirting". That might affect your career choices and the industry as a whole would be poorer for it. At the very least it
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<div dir="ltr" class="">I hate to do this. I'm going to contradict my previous post about this not being the forum for such discussions.
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<div class="">I've been catching up on the posts re Sexual Harassment in our industry. I didn't read all of them, there were just too many. So I don't know if this perspective was addressed.</div>
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<div class="">Firstly, I will state categorically that Sexual Harassment is wrong. SEXUAL HARASSMENT is wrong. Flirting or saying hi to a cute girl (or guy) is not wrong.</div>
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<div class="">I hate seeing people go politically correct mad and destroying perfectly good situations because of a few idiots who should be punished. That said, the incident should be looked into to make sure facts/accusations are accurate, as a misunderstanding
or wrong accusation can easily destroy someone as badly as being actually sexually harassed. Bevan was right to make the announcement, and right to send the warning of what would occur next time. </div>
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<div class="">But we need to make sure our industry doesn't have all the fun and opportunity to meet new people squeezed out of it. I'd hate to see events where people are afraid to even say hi to someone they fancy (damn I'm old) due to incidents such as these.</div>
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<div class="">I say this because I have a different experience than most people here in that I met my wife at an Ausnog event.</div>
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<div class="">It was an industry drinks (pre-conference I believe for Ausnog #2)... there was a cute girl named Shanti (white) and her friend Lynette (Sri Lankan) which I found highly amusing based on their names. We had lots of fun with that and there was
much flirting to be had. I wasn't too naughty (based on the result), but I do recall my staff carrying me out of that event due to way too much alcohol.</div>
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spent most of the time outside doing more flirting with this amazingly cute girl who for some reason was giving me the time of day.</div>
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<div class="">A few days later I headed to Christchurch for my first APNIC event (#26) on James Spenceleys recommendation and by some stroke of luck (for me), James brought along Shanti too. Well, that was that. It was my first APNIC, and James asked Shanti
to 'keep me amused' [it was all his fault!!] as we were obviously getting on well. Well, that was the end of that.</div>
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<div class="">So. Sexual Harassment is bad bad bad... and anyone who does anyone that is not welcome should be taken care of harshly. But, trying to meet people, is not a bad thing, and as long as people are respectful, people should continue to continue to
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