<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">I've been doing some research on my own, to see if ANYTHING corroborates this, and I'm coming up empty handed. (This is the bonus of being unemployed!)<div><br></div><div>Let's go through a few assertions in the original article.</div><div><br></div><div>1. It was an extremely small chip ('grain of rice'), disguised as a signal coupler (which has, at most, 4 pins)</div><div>2. It was able to alter the OS running on the machine</div><div>3. It was tied into the BMC</div><div>4. It was able to connect to things, AND receive connections from things.</div><div><br></div><div>Unfortunately, those things just don't add up. The smallest standalone computer that I can find is from IBM - <a href="https://bit.ly/2GLm0K6">https://bit.ly/2GLm0K6</a> - which is 1mm^2.</div><div><br></div><div>That does not include any external communications pins (apparently), as it's all self contained.</div><div><br></div><div>You can't just wave a magic wand and say 'It was connected to the BMC, so it could do all these things'. Especially if it only had 4 pins - 2 of which would be power, and the other two would be 'rxd' and 'txd' - But what does it connect to? How does it recieve connections? Does it tap into the BMC and make it do stuff? This just doesn't add up.</div><div><br></div><div>So I don't know WHY Bloomberg is pushing this, especially with extremely vocal and explicit denials from all the parties involved. I'm calling this 'fake news' and my first hypothesis was that it's something do with with the US Government being annoyed at China, but I try to avoid conspiracy theories, and I think we'll probably find out it was 4chan trolling some bloomberg reporter, for the lulz.</div><div><br></div><div>--Rob</div><div><br></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 at 10:00, Noel Butler <<a href="mailto:noel.butler@ausics.net">noel.butler@ausics.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="font-size:10pt">
<p>given when this broke a couple days ago</p>
<p><a href="https://www.securityweek.com/china-used-tiny-chips-us-computers-steal-secrets-report" target="_blank">https://www.securityweek.com/china-used-tiny-chips-us-computers-steal-secrets-report</a></p>
<p>overnight nasdaq supermicro stocks down 41%</p>
<div>seems cant trust much coming out of China these days. though, you cant trust anything coming out of the USA either.</div>
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<p>Kind Regards,</p>
<p>Noel Butler</p>
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