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I’m just making sure I am not alone in what I read into their response. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Kind Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Jim.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> AusNOG <ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Serge Burjak<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 5 October 2018 11:09 AM<br><b>To:</b> Paul Wilkins <paulwilkins369@gmail.com><br><b>Cc:</b> shannonpearce@me.com; ausnog@ausnog.net <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] supermicro stocks dive<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>This is the response from the players<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-04/the-big-hack-amazon-apple-supermicro-and-beijing-respond"><span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-04/the-big-hack-amazon-apple-supermicro-and-beijing-respond</span></a><span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 at 10:37, Paul Wilkins <<a href="mailto:paulwilkins369@gmail.com">paulwilkins369@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Posted on Bloomberg October 4, 2018 ergo, not fake news. The meta story here is that Apple and Amazon are officially denying it.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div style='margin-left:30.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Three senior insiders at Apple say that in the summer of 2015, it, too, found malicious chips on Supermicro motherboards. Apple severed ties with Supermicro the following year, for what it described as unrelated reasons.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 at 10:29, Shannon Pearce <<a href="mailto:shannonpearce@me.com" target="_blank">shannonpearce@me.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Not sure how posting a link to the purported fake news article is proof said article is not fake?<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Shan. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 5 Oct 2018, at 10:27 am, Paul Wilkins <<a href="mailto:paulwilkins369@gmail.com" target="_blank">paulwilkins369@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Negatory on the fake news.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/the-big-hack-how-china-used-a-tiny-chip-to-infiltrate-america-s-top-companies" target="_blank">https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/the-big-hack-how-china-used-a-tiny-chip-to-infiltrate-america-s-top-companies</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 at 10:25, Jay Dixon <<a href="mailto:jaybobo@gmail.com" target="_blank">jaybobo@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>As our previous security manager at work put it in his thick Russian accent...<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>"you know, you have 2 choices about who reads your email; KGB, or FBI"<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 10:00 AM Noel Butler <<a href="mailto:noel.butler@ausics.net" target="_blank">noel.butler@ausics.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>given when this broke a couple days ago<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><a href="https://www.securityweek.com/china-used-tiny-chips-us-computers-steal-secrets-report" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>https://www.securityweek.com/china-used-tiny-chips-us-computers-steal-secrets-report</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>overnight nasdaq supermicro stocks down 41%<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>seems cant trust much coming out of China these days. though, you cant trust anything coming out of the USA either.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>-- <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Kind Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Noel Butler<o:p></o:p></span></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=0 style='width:561.0pt'><tr><td style='padding:3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:7.5pt'>This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. 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