<div dir="ltr">Sadly, it appears that some do. :(</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 at 13:30, Matt Harlum <<a href="mailto:matt@cactuar.net">matt@cactuar.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Do people really need a Code of Conduct to tell them not to be sex offenders?<br>
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> On 1 Oct 2018, at 1:26 pm, Peter Tonoli <<a href="mailto:peter%2Bausnog@metaverse.org" target="_blank">peter+ausnog@metaverse.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> To keep on charter, perhaps we need to look at preventing these issues in future?<br>
> <br>
> Looking at the AusNOG website, and the AusNOG 2018 conference sites - they appear, through my cursory look, to be devoid of a code of conduct, or similar. Perhaps, as a community, a good start would be implementing a Code of Conduct - an example I can think of is Linux Australia's, at <a href="https://linux.conf.au/attend/code-of-conduct/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://linux.conf.au/attend/code-of-conduct/</a> .<br>
> <br>
> Cheers,<br>
> Peter.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Quoting Robert Hudson <<a href="mailto:hudrob@gmail.com" target="_blank">hudrob@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
> <br>
>> I tend to agree with Paul - if the list charter means we can't discuss a<br>
>> bloody serious issue about how some of our community behave (and the fact<br>
>> that this behaviour is inappropriate), then I don't think I want to be on<br>
>> this list any more.<br>
>> <br>
>> Sweep this sort of thing under the carpet (and make no mistake, that's<br>
>> EXACTLY what the "STOP THREAD" was doing), and you're just enabling it to<br>
>> continue.<br>
>> <br>
>> If such behaviour was reported within the ITPA membership and the<br>
>> accusation was found to be true, the perpetrator would be excluded from the<br>
>> organisation. Period.<br>
>> <br>
>> I guess we find ourselves at a point where we find out what sort of group<br>
>> AusNOG wants to be.<br>
>> <br>
>> Regards,<br>
>> <br>
>> Robert<br>
>> <br>
>>> On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 at 10:07, Paul Wilkins <<a href="mailto:paulwilkins369@gmail.com" target="_blank">paulwilkins369@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Where large chunks of our lives are winding up on line, I find it<br>
>>> problematic where discussion of endemic problems get ruled outside the<br>
>>> terms of service. It leaves the problem to fester. Discussion should be<br>
>>> legitimate where there's no names, so no libel.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Also, the police will only involve themselves in instances of criminal<br>
>>> behaviour. Most inappropriate workplace behaviour falls short and they<br>
>>> won't be interested.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Kind regards<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Paul Wilkins<br>
>>> <br>
>>> <br>
>>>> On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 at 12:46, David Hughes <<a href="mailto:david@hughes.com.au" target="_blank">david@hughes.com.au</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> *Bevan*,<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> Any allegation of sexual harassment is a very serious matter and I<br>
>>>> encourage you to raise these issues with the appropriate authorities. The<br>
>>>> police are in the best position to deal with such allegations. If I can<br>
>>>> be of any assistance please don’t hesitate to contact me directly, off-list.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> *To the members of the list* - I’m sure any of you would agree that any<br>
>>>> form of sexual harassment is not acceptable. As such, there is no reason<br>
>>>> for you to follow-up to Bevan’s post. There is nothing to debate here.<br>
>>>> Please note that this is a STOP THREAD post. Please see the list charter<br>
>>>> below if you do not understand your obligations with relation to a STOP<br>
>>>> THREAD.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <a href="https://www.ausnog.net/mailing_list/charter" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.ausnog.net/mailing_list/charter</a><br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> David<br>
>>>> ...<br>
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