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<p>Talking about a 'public medium' in this context is probably a bit
misleading.</p>
<p>The term 'national medium' is probably better - radio and TV are
a national medium as the spectrum is regulated nationally.</p>
<p>The internet is certainly not a national medium - it's an
international network run by private companies and the vast
majority of the internet doesn't have to do anything the
Australian government might want them to do, no matter what laws
are passed.</p>
<p>Unless the government wants to actively block the whole internet
apart from whitelisted compliant destinations, they do have to
realise that there is absolutely nothing they can do about what's
on the internet from other parts of the world.</p>
<p>You could also say that parts of the internet are licensed - E.g.
posting on Facebook requires accepting terms and conditions which
if broken can result in your access being terminated. But the
internet in general is unlicensed.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 01/09/18 18:00, Mark Newton wrote:<br>
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<div>On 20 Aug 2018, at 10:55 AM, Paul Wilkins <<a
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<blockquote type="cite" class="">Because the internet is a
public medium, unlike radio and television, you don't require
a license to publish content. </blockquote>
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<div>That makes zero sense.</div>
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Radio and television are public media, using public spectrum,
and that’s the basis of their licensing scheme.</div>
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<div>The Internet is not, and that’s the basis of the lack of its
licensing scheme.</div>
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<div>In what sense do you mistakenly believe the internet is
“public”? In what mistaken sense do you think that public things
don’t get licensed?</div>
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<blockquote type="cite" class="">The audience doesn't require a
license (unless you're the UK where you need a TV license). </blockquote>
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<div>You don’t need a TV license in the UK to use the Internet.
Not sure what you’re trying to say here.</div>
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<blockquote type="cite" class="">So the regulatory domain is
different. I expect coming down the track, crypto will become
a licensed technology, and you won't be able to get a
certificate without government approval. </blockquote>
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<div>That also makes zero sense.</div>
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<div>You can make your own certificates. You can run your own
CA. You can run crypto without certificates.</div>
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<div>Your prediction also makes very little sense because it
would represent a sharp inflection point in the arc of
history, which is to have barriers to crypto steadily removed.
As recently as the 1990s crypto was regulated as a munition,
with licensing and export controls; that’s mostly now been
dismantled, and this bill can perhaps be seen as a
post-braindeath limb twitch spasm from the agencies who used
to have dominion over this subject matter area, and who now do
not.</div>
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<div>So I’m not sure where that “expectation” you’re describing
has come from.</div>
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<blockquote type="cite" class="">We should also remember that
unlike radio and television, the internet doesn't need only a
regulatory regime, but also needs to be policed. <br class="">
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<div>Are you serious, Paul? Radio and television are policed
within an inch of their lives, both licensed and unlicensed.</div>
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<div>The internet, by contrast, is so poorly policed that the
actual police STILL haven’t worked out how to work with it,
despite its ubiquitous availability for more than 30 years.</div>
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<div class="">This bill is pretty weak beer compared to
what data retention was as far as making inroads on the
right to privacy, which ended up being very much watered
down to what it might have been but for strong public
opposition. Maintain the rage for when Barnaby Joyce
proposes judicial wiretaps for radio and television.<br
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<div>This bill proposes wide-scale removal of privacy protections
so the Government can access <i class="">content.</i></div>
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<div>I’m at a complete loss to understand how you can say that
that’s small in scale compared to data retention. </div>
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<div>Are you actually serious?</div>
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<div>I think you have a conceptual model of the internet that’s
very divergent from the reality most of us live in. I’d love to
know why you believe these things. Maybe write a book or
something?</div>
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<div> - mark</div>
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