<div dir="ltr"><div>Rather than pick apart each others' semantics, I think we can agree, and the reality is, that to publish TV/Radio content requires a license. The internet does not. However, both cross into the public domain in the carriage of content - TV/Radio via government controlled radio spectrum (though cable equally requires a license regardless of the carriage conduit being entirely in private hands). Internet carriage crosses into the realm of governmental control where carriage crosses property lines, and thus you need a carrier license.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Under pretty much all the internet legislation, if you're running a local network within your private domain, government legislation doesn't apply. This is very much analogous to the physical realm where you can do what you like within the privacy of your home. Once your activities cross the property boundary, then government controls apply. But also, judicial warrant has always allowed search and seizure on private land if a judge finds reasonable grounds of criminality.<br></div><div><br></div><div>As to the arc of history, and the likelihood of regulation of crypto, both history and Marx are on my side. The Wild West was wild for about 20 years, until the invention of barbed wire and the ineluctable need to partition the prairies to allow attribution of value. Regulation of the cyber domain is inevitable because that is the gradient of surplus value.<br></div><div><br></div><div>The government is going to be able to enforce the Assistance and Access Bill, because to operate a business in Australia, requires a local presence. Your trade marks and intellectual property need recognition, and you require a registered company to conduct business and to hold bank accounts. If you won't comply with assistance/capability notices, you won't be able to conduct business in Australia.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Kind regards<br></div><div><br></div><div>Paul Wilkins<br></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sun, 2 Sep 2018 at 08:39, Mark Newton <<a href="mailto:newton@atdot.dotat.org">newton@atdot.dotat.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">On 2 Sep 2018, at 04:35, Nick Stallman <<a href="mailto:nick@agentpoint.com" target="_blank">nick@agentpoint.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote type="cite">
<p>You could also say that parts of the internet are licensed - E.g.
posting on Facebook requires accepting terms and conditions which
if broken can result in your access being terminated. But the
internet in general is unlicensed.</p>
</blockquote><br><div>Acceptance of terms and conditions is not a “license.” The word has a very well defined legal meaning, and that isn’t it.</div><div><br></div><div>It is obvious that Paul was referring to government issued approvals or permissions for crypto. Which is, not to put too fine a point on it, ludicrous.</div><div><br></div><div> - mark</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></blockquote></div></div>