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<p>Facebook do have their own network globally and they also have
Facebook Messenger, and a lot of the service is encrypted so this
bill would very much apply to them. <br>
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<p>It isn't just a website they have an entire platform ware Apps
for both mobile and desktop can be created and the network side of
it as well, they have an extensive network. <br>
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<p>I think the issue with these bills is they are so dam vague and
the government don't have a great record when it comes to anything
IT related. <br>
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<div>This bill has nothing to do with content on Facebook (or
websites run by content creators, or even websites at all).
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<div dir="auto">The Internet is nothing like broadcast mediums
such as radio and television, and cannot be regulated in the
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<div dir="auto">This bill should never pass.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Sat, 18 Aug. 2018, 4:51 pm Chad Kelly,
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8/18/2018 12:00 PM, <a
href="mailto:ausnog-request@lists.ausnog.net"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">ausnog-request@lists.ausnog.net</a>
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> Possible scenario:<br>
><br>
> 3:00am Sunday morning, phone rings at the DC
reception, is picked up by<br>
> security. "Hi, we've never met. This is Paul Symon of
ASIS. I'm sending<br>
> some uniformed AFP officers over to sieze a number of
servers. This call<br>
> constitutes a verbal technical assistance notice, and
non compliance<br>
> carries a penalty of 5 years imprisonment".<br>
Given how most Datacentres work in this country I doubt
this would happen.<br>
You generally need to be escorted by security into the
areas ware <br>
equipment is housed and generally requests need to be made
in writing <br>
and an appointment needs to be booked.<br>
You can't just walk in off the street, and you also need
photo ID which <br>
gets scanned and stored for a period of at least 12
months, when you enter.<br>
You can't even just walk into the DC as a customer, hell
for some of <br>
them you even need an induction before you can set foot in
them.<br>
If someone did try this the operator would just demand
something in <br>
writing and hang up the phone.<br>
Also security don't take phone calls that would be the on
call techs job.<br>
The UK 10 or 12 years ago doesn't really apply to Au law
and it was <br>
Verizon, who are a US company and they are now a lot
larger then they <br>
were 11 years ago and Publicly listed.<br>
So I would suspect security at their facilities would be
improved and a <br>
lot of those providers are getting out of the DC space and
partnering <br>
with the likes of AWS anyway so they don't need to take
responsibility <br>
for hardware.<br>
<br>
This bill has come about because of Facebook and them
allowing video of <br>
child abuse to remain on the platform.<br>
If Facebook had been proactive and handed over the content
to the AFP <br>
and the FBI as well as all of the users details none of
this would even <br>
be being discussed.<br>
The Internet needs regulation just like Radio and
Television.<br>
This bill should of been passed 20 years ago in reality.<br>
<br>
Regards Chad.<br>
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-- <br>
Chad Kelly<br>
Manager<br>
CPK Web Services<br>
Phone 03 5273 0246<br>
Web <a href="http://www.cpkws.com.au" rel="noreferrer
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CPK Web Services
Phone 03 5273 0246
Web <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.cpkws.com.au">www.cpkws.com.au</a></pre>
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