<html>
  <head>
    <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
  </head>
  <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Thanks Aftab for the plug - this is
      something that IA has been tracking and meeting in Canberra with
      various Minister-types down over the past 6-9 months, trying to
      determine what they were looking to do, and educate them on the
      concerns.<br>
      This is data retention all over again. On one hand, as an ISP, if
      you don't actually supply end-user devices and all the OTT
      messaging apps pass through your network, there may not be much in
      this to concern.  This Bill is aimed at Samsung/Google/HTC/Oppo,
      and OTT service providers like Apple iMessage, WhatsApp, Google
      Hangouts, etc.<br>
      They were quite insistent they would not be seeking to back-door
      encryption, and as it happens, they were right! They just want to
      back-door the entire device. And website, which is classed in
      there too.<br>
      <br>
      If you're in Canberra on Monday night, we've got a number of
      people from MIT Computer Science and Artificial Inelligence Labs
      (CSAIL) and other experts that talk to USA's people, and tickets
      still available - From 4:30pm, with free drinks provided
      afterwards.<br>
      <br>
 <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.eventbrite.com.au/e/encryption-experts-session-evening-in-canberra-tickets-48911717263">https://www.eventbrite.com.au/e/encryption-experts-session-evening-in-canberra-tickets-48911717263</a><br>
      <br>
      They're taking feedback/submissions/comments for 4 weeks only - is
      anyone planning to submit some comment?<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      On 15/08/2018 8:07 AM, Aftab Siddiqui wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:CAK5YLgdSj7yYXp_g3gM0XJ5wWhgRSsQVDZ4eT1jJmjLXLDyXCQ@mail.gmail.com">
      <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
      <div dir="ltr">
        <div>Related to this - Internet Australia and Internet Society
          is holding an Experts Session on Encryption on 20 August 2018
          at 4:30 pm in the Theatre at Parliament House, Canberra.</div>
        <div><a
href="https://www.internetsociety.org/events/experts-session-on-encryption/"
            moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.internetsociety.org/events/experts-session-on-encryption/</a></div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div><br>
          <div class="gmail_quote">
            <div dir="ltr">On Tue, 14 Aug 2018 at 06:39 I <<a
                href="mailto:beatthebastards@inbox.com"
                moz-do-not-send="true">beatthebastards@inbox.com</a>>
              wrote:<br>
            </div>
            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
              .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
              <div>
                <a
href="https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/about/consultations/assistance-and-access-bill-2018"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/about/consultations/assistance-and-access-bill-2018</a>
              </div>
              _______________________________________________<br>
              AusNOG mailing list<br>
              <a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank"
                moz-do-not-send="true">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
              <a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog"
                rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><br>
            </blockquote>
          </div>
        </div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
      <br>
      <pre wrap="">_______________________________________________
AusNOG mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a>
</pre>
    </blockquote>
    <p><br>
    </p>
  </body>
</html>