<div dir="ltr"><div>Paul, </div><div><br></div><div>Tell us about your existing environment (Exchange 2010/2013/2016)? Whats your uplink speed? The number of mailboxes? Total mailbox size?</div><div><br></div><div>I had Exchange 2010, 50mb uplink and 3Tb of mail to migrate, it was stressful as this link was also our internet WAN link too.</div><div><br></div><div>In the end, I migrated 200 users with Microsoft fast-track support and we had a successful migration project and decommissioned the 2010 environment and our netbox blue spam appliance.</div><div><br></div><div>We are only using Exchange Online and OneDrive for Business and its great; I no longer need to manage exchange and deal with the frequent outages we had on the 2010 setup I inherited.<br></div><div><br></div><div>It requires lots of planning as I don't think users were ever deleted before I started. </div><div><br></div><div>We had an Optus "managed" network we found Optus aggressively traffic shaping Office 365 which caused Outlook to lock up continuously and it was a very poor end-user experience until we put in faster links (with another ISP). <br></div><div><br></div><div>We have a hybrid configuration so we still use an Exchange 2016 VM to manage users, You should be matched your UPN to your SMTP address, we had to rename 200 users to firstname.lastname which wasn't fun but that's a part of planning your migration. </div><div><br></div><div>The only thing missing with Office 365 is the basic spam and virus protection/security is pretty poor. So we're looking at deploying a cloud email security service next FY.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><div>Brenden</div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div> </div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 19 June 2018 at 11:10, James Deck <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jdeck@1300webpro.com.au" target="_blank">jdeck@1300webpro.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>We’ve had a lot of success, once the nuances were learned. Things that were tricky the first time around, but are okay once you get the hang of it:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>- AD sync<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>- managing the users after AD sync is in place (having to edit the actual ADSI attributes is a bit strange)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>- importing PST files into Online Archive (requires uploading to Azure blob storage via PowerShell)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>- having different email addresses and logins (eg.
<a href="mailto:jdeck@1300webpro.com.au" target="_blank">jdeck@1300webpro.com.au</a> as my login and deck as my AD login
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<a href="mailto:deck@1300webpro.com.au" target="_blank">deck@1300webpro.com.au</a> as my UPN)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Certainly, when you have weirdness and have to contact China it is an absolute nightmare. We have one at the moment where a user’s outgoing mail (external senders only) get stuck in the Outbox in
Outlook for a period of time. The support person’s “resolution” was to use OWA.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>On the whole, I would rate the experience of post-migration users as superior to on-prem (aside from when you have a “call China” problem). I am very much an on-prem person, so this assessment is
saying something :)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">AusNOG <<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.<wbr>net</a>> on behalf of Paul Wilkins <<a href="mailto:paulwilkins369@gmail.com" target="_blank">paulwilkins369@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, 19 June 2018 at 11:04 am<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[AusNOG] [AUSNOG] o365 experience<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So much so it leaves me wondering if the effort of migration can be justified? At the end of the day, you need a performant service, not finger pointing between networks and services, and blaming performance on insufficient network/proxy
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