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That's not congestion at the IX, that's HE.net routing traffic
back to you (and me) via California. They're prefering my Vocus
transit in SJC over the shorter AS path in Sydney.<br>
<br>
Try doing a traceroute from their Sydney router on
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lg.he.net">http://lg.he.net</a><br>
<br>
Matt.<br>
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On 16/05/2018 10:46 AM, Edwin Groothuis wrote:<br>
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<div>From Internode there seems to be congestion at the exchange
point:<br>
<br>
traceroute to <a href="http://tserv1.syd1.he.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">tserv1.syd1.he.net</a>
(216.218.142.50), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets<br>
1 192.168.129.1 (192.168.129.1) 2.043 ms 2.373 ms 1.887
ms<br>
2 <a href="http://lo0.bras1.syd2.on.ii.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">lo0.bras1.syd2.on.ii.net</a>
(150.101.32.61) 30.334 ms 31.081 ms 30.884 ms<br>
3 <a href="http://be1.cr2.syd2.on.ii.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">be1.cr2.syd2.on.ii.net</a>
(150.101.197.80) 54.951 ms 30.238 ms 31.129 ms<br>
4 <a href="http://be51.cr2.syd7.on.ii.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">be51.cr2.syd7.on.ii.net</a>
(150.101.40.242) 31.842 ms 31.422 ms 33.403 ms<br>
5 <a href="http://ae6.cr2.syd4.on.ii.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">ae6.cr2.syd4.on.ii.net</a>
(150.101.41.124) 31.041 ms 31.468 ms 32.887 ms<br>
6 <a href="http://6939.syd.equinix.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">6939.syd.equinix.com</a>
(45.127.173.24) 181.514 ms 181.298 ms 179.775 ms<br>
7 <a href="http://tserv1.syd1.he.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">tserv1.syd1.he.net</a>
(216.218.142.50) 180.816 ms 180.744 ms 181.266 ms<br>
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<div>(I don't even understand why I need to investigate this as
it's more than 10 years ago since I got native IPv6 on my ADSL
and can't think of a reason besides that nobody providing
NBN/FTTC will support it. Welcome back to early 2000's)<br>
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Edwin<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 16 May 2018 at 07:22, Cameron Murray
<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cameron.murray@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">cameron.murray@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Looks to be in Sydney for us:
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<div><span class="">
<div>Tracing route to <a
href="http://tserv1.syd1.he.net" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">tserv1.syd1.he.net</a>
[216.218.142.50]</div>
<div>over a maximum of 30 hops:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</span>
<div> 3 1 ms 2 ms 1 ms 103.17.253.22</div>
<div> 4 13 ms 14 ms 13 ms <a
href="http://as6939.nsw.ix.asn.au" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">as6939.nsw.ix.asn.au</a>
[218.100.52.249]</div>
<div> 5 13 ms 13 ms 13 ms <a
href="http://tserv1.syd1.he.net" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">tserv1.syd1.he.net</a>
[216.218.142.50]</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Trace complete.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 6:19
PM, andrew khoo <span dir="ltr"><<a
href="mailto:andrew.khoo@as136019.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">andrew.khoo@as136019.net</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">to confirm, i am tracing from a box
in a <a href="http://he.net" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">he.net</a> colo and
it's going to australia:
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<div>as7175-sjc>traceroute 216.218.142.50</div>
<div>traceroute to 216.218.142.50
(216.218.142.50), 30 hops max, 60 byte
packets</div>
<div> 1 <a
href="http://v1882.core2.fmt2.he.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">v1882.core2.fmt2.he.net</a>
(65.19.156.125) 10.773 ms 0.234 ms 0.374
ms</div>
<div> 2 <a
href="http://10ge6-16.core4.fmt2.he.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">10ge6-16.core4.fmt2.he.net</a>
(184.105.213.189) 0.768 ms 0.849 ms 0.319
ms</div>
<div> 3 <a
href="http://100ge10-1.core1.sjc1.he.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">100ge10-1.core1.sjc1.he.net</a>
(184.105.80.193) 0.552 ms 0.594 ms 0.652
ms</div>
<div> 4 <a
href="http://10ge2-1.core1.syd1.he.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">10ge2-1.core1.syd1.he.net</a>
(184.105.222.86) 146.522 ms 146.509 ms
146.462 ms</div>
<div> 5 <a href="http://tserv1.syd1.he.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">tserv1.syd1.he.net</a>
(216.218.142.50) 146.303 ms 146.311 ms
146.285 ms</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 15,
2018 at 6:13 PM, Gavin Tweedie <span
dir="ltr"><<a
href="mailto:gavin.tweedie@megaport.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gavin.tweedie@megaport.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">TPG buys transit from HE
/in the US/ so routing via the US is
expected, twice.
<div>TPG SYD -> TPG SJC -> HE
SJC -> HE SYD -> HE SJC ->
TPG SJC -> TPG SYD</div>
<div><br>
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<div>
<div>Yours looks like it's staying
in Sydney on the way there, and
coming back via the US I agree..
You don't have any indications in
your traceroute what your source
ASN is, but I'm going to guess
that your ASN buys transit from
HE, or someone who buys from HE
would that be right?<br>
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<div>Hurricane do have a LG @ <a
href="https://lg.he.net/"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://lg.he.net/</a>
which might help you work out the
reverse path.</div>
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</div>
<div>Gav</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Tue, 15 May 2018
at 16:07, Christopher Hawker
<<a
href="mailto:me@chrishawker.com.au"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">me@chrishawker.com.au</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<p
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">Hi
All,</p>
<p
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0"><br>
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<p
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">I've
seen that HE now
supposedly run a IPv6
Tunnel Server in Sydney,
although I have doubts as
to it's location after a
few traceroutes. This is
from SY4 via NSW-IX:</p>
<p
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0"><br>
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<div>default.master@cr1:~$
traceroute 216.218.142.50</div>
<div>traceroute to
216.218.142.50
(216.218.142.50), 30 hops
max, 38 byte packets</div>
<div> 1 upstream.carrier
(192.0.2.254) 0.183 ms
0.123 ms 0.108 ms</div>
<div> 2 <a
href="http://as6939.nsw.ix.asn.au"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">as6939.nsw.ix.asn.au</a>
(218.100.52.249) 150.979
ms 152.368 ms 150.857 ms</div>
<div> 3 <a
href="http://tserv1.syd1.he.net"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">tserv1.syd1.he.net</a>
(216.218.142.50) 150.751
ms 150.839 ms 150.755 ms</div>
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However, this trace is from
an AAPT NBN HFC service:
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style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0"><br>
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<div>C:\Users\default.master>tracer<wbr>t
216.218.142.50</div>
<div><span
style="font-size:12pt">Tracing
route to <a
href="http://tserv1.syd1.he.net"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">tserv1.syd1.he.net</a>
[216.218.142.50]</span><br>
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<div>over a maximum of 30
hops:</div>
<div><span
style="font-size:12pt">
1 2 ms 1 ms
1 ms 172.16.10.254</span><br>
</div>
<div> 2 * *
* Request timed out.</div>
<div> 3 12 ms 10 ms
9 ms <a
href="http://po41.sglebbrdr11.aapt.net.au"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">po41.sglebbrdr11.aapt.net.au</a>
[202.10.14.198]</div>
<div> 4 8 ms 9 ms
9 ms <a
href="http://syd-gls-har-wgw1-be-30.tpgi.com.au"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">syd-gls-har-wgw1-be-30.tpgi.co<wbr>m.au</a>
[203.219.107.197]</div>
<div> 5 10 ms 15 ms
14 ms <a
href="http://203.29.134-67.tpgi.com.au"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">203.29.134-67.tpgi.com.au</a>
[203.29.134.67]</div>
<div> 6 173 ms 170 ms
162 ms <a
href="http://100ge13-1.core1.sjc1.he.net"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">100ge13-1.core1.sjc1.he.net</a>
[216.218.139.233]</div>
<div> 7 308 ms 311 ms
308 ms <a
href="http://10ge2-1.core1.syd1.he.net"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">10ge2-1.core1.syd1.he.net</a>
[184.105.222.86]</div>
<div> 8 309 ms 309 ms
309 ms <a
href="http://tserv1.syd1.he.net"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">tserv1.syd1.he.net</a>
[216.218.142.50]</div>
<div><span
style="font-size:12pt">Trace
complete.</span><br>
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<p
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">The
first trace looks like it
is going over to the US
(based on the latency),
however the second looks
like it is going to the US
and back. Anyone else seen
anything like this? If
there are any HE techs on
list, I'd appreciate it if
they could please contact
me off-list.</p>
<p
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0"><br>
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