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<p class="MsoNormal">Well said, Jake! <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I wrote an over-the-top, self-promoting blog post on this exact topic back in 2010 here -
<a href="http://ashleyknowles.net/2010/11/getting-your-foot-into-the-it-industry/">
http://ashleyknowles.net/2010/11/getting-your-foot-into-the-it-industry/</a> <o:p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Ash<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">AusNOG <ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net> on behalf of Jacob Taylor <jake@taylornetworks.com.au><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, 17 April 2018 at 9:50 am<br>
<b>To: </b>Tristan Gulyas <evilzardoz@gmail.com><br>
<b>Cc: </b>AUSNOG <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [AusNOG] Opportunities in Australia to work on Event networks (Volunteer)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222;background:white">Hi all,</span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222">As a 24 year old network engineer, I'm often asked by others at uni how I "broke in" to the networking space.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222">I've also seen this question posed in various permutation on this very list so I thought I would share my some advice
for other young people anxious to jump into this space.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222">Obviously, this is highly subjective and anecdotal - YMMV.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222">Before anything else, I recommend not pidgeonholing yourself into networking. I recommend learning SysOps skills and
programming, automation technologies and so forth. When I started at my current organisation I began in the Windows/Linux team. This experience is increasingly critical in the new world order of open networking, SDN and all that ilk. In my environment, we
have started rolling out white-box switching based on Cumulus Linux and configuration management/orchestration by Ansible.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222">Having a CCNA (or NP, JNCIA etc. etc.) is all well and good, but remember every other candidate for a role will likely
have one. Me? I have only a JNCIA and an expired CCENT. Having been interviewed personally and also having interviewed others for a senior role (with CCIEs no less), I can most definitely say being able to talk passionately about the actual technologies you
are using/supporting & give examples beats any level of certification. It demonstrates higher-level conceptual understanding, which itself is a requirement for effective troubleshooting.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222">Probably a more specific extension of the first point, but I've found it pays to be familiar with the workings of application
protocols. Understand the structure of HTTP requests and responses, TLS handshakes, SIP transactions. I recommend whipping out Wireshark or tcpdump and viewing the packets as they go on to the wire - this skill has been invaluable in demonstrating that other
teams/3rd parties were actually at fault after they so happily pointed the finger at the network. It is also helpful when configuring/supporting/debugging load balancers, which are increasingly being pushed into the support scope of networks (at least in my
experience).<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222">So yeah, that's my 5 cents on the issue. <o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222">Jake<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 9:43 AM, Tristan Gulyas <</span><a href="mailto:evilzardoz@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">evilzardoz@gmail.com</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">Some great suggestions in this thread. There's plenty of volunteer work around the esports and gaming event area and you get to meet some amazing people in the process. They have special requirements
that typically exceed the capabilities and flexibility of venue-provided equipment, are on a strict budget and you can get a bit creative with your solutions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">I can personally vouch for the team at ESL Australia (who run IEM Sydney) and at Ruxcon and I'm also look after Respawn LAN, a Melbourne-gaming community very similar to RFLAN who'll be running
some events later this year (and we'd love a hand with the network!).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">Plenty of familiar people on this list whom I've met at similar events over the years :)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">On 17 Apr 2018, at 7:56 am, Jay Dixon <</span><a href="mailto:jaybobo@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">jaybobo@gmail.com</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">I can second events like this, even if you're not directly on the hardware itself you get a lot of good experience with layer 1 - running cables and generally getting to troubleshoot networks
(a lot of event attendees need assistance, volunteer for the helpdesk!) <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">Many volunteers are industry professionals and can be excellent guides. It's how I got started some 18(?!) years ago, a lot of the people I ran helped run events with I still see on a day to
day basis through work. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">Worst case scenario you get to play some games and make some friends!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 1:29 AM, Tim Raphael <</span><a href="mailto:raphael.timothy@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">raphael.timothy@gmail.com</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">Hey Jason,<br>
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You'd want to be looking at NFP orgs that run events as a good place to start for volunteering.
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I, with a group of passionate gamers run Red Flag Lanfest (RFLAN) in Perth a few times a year. In 18 hours we build a wired and wireless network for ~ 900 gamers for 24 hours of tournaments ans casual eSports.<br>
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You might also want to check out Intel Extreme Masters (IEM) Sydney (Sponsored CS:GO competition), I've assisted with that network build in the past and they're currently taking volunteers again for this year - maybe check their FB page I think for that link.
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Tim Raphael<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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> On 15 Apr 2018, at 6:52 pm, Jason Leschnik <</span><a href="mailto:jason@leschnik.me" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">jason@leschnik.me</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">>
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> While listening to a back episode of the Packet Pushers I noticed one of the guests mentioned he volunteered every year for SC (Super Computer Conference) with helping building the temporary network and found it a great way to gain experience. Do we have
any events in Australia that afford the same opportunity for experience or are most contracted out if they require a temporary network.<br>
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> Jason.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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