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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Gavin - would be illuminating if you
could repeat this against the IPv6 addresses instead of the IPv4
addresses of each of these resolver services.<br>
Sure, many of the probes won't have IPv6 connectivity and won't
get through at all (shame, Australian ISPs, shame!). But of those
that do get through and return a result, would be interesting to
see if there is a significant differences in latency between using
v4 and v6 to these supposedly well-connected nodes.<br>
<br>
Paul.<br>
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<br>
On 2/04/2018 11:55 AM, Gavin Tweedie wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:CADmtHhTqO5181J0gFBzkytbN9KApgDMJO3ns5f7nbWftzO1xPQ@mail.gmail.com">
<div dir="ltr">I burnt a few of my RIPE Atlas credits last night <span
style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">and
did a traceroute from every probe in AU & NZ (221 of them)
to the following "popular" open resolvers.</span>
<div>
<div>(if you want to host one so you can earn some credits of
your own and there's not one in your ASN yet then email me
directly - or learn more at <a
href="https://atlas.ripe.net" moz-do-not-send="true">https://atlas.ripe.net</a>)
<div><br>
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<div>Results:</div>
<div>
<ul>
<li>1.1.1.1 (Cloudflare) @ <a
href="https://atlas.ripe.net/measurements/11899869/#%21map"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://atlas.ripe.net/measurements/11899869/#!map</a></li>
<li>8.8.8.8 (Google) @ <a
href="https://atlas.ripe.net/measurements/11899870/#%21map"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://atlas.ripe.net/measurements/11899870/#!map</a></li>
<li>9.9.9.9 (PCH) @ <a
href="https://atlas.ripe.net/measurements/11899871/#%21map"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://atlas.ripe.net/measurements/11899871/#!map</a></li>
<li>208.67.222.222 (OpenDNS) @ <a
href="https://atlas.ripe.net/measurements/11899872/#%21map"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://atlas.ripe.net/measurements/11899872/#!map</a></li>
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<div><br>
Interestingly ignoring all other metrics (and if
centralising recursive DNS is a good idea) and just
looking at number of probes with RTT over 100msec, a
random number I picked - who wants a DNS server 100ms
away?..</div>
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<ul>
<li>1.1.1.1 = None above 100ms (4** didn't get to the last
hop - <a href="http://1.0.0.0/8" moz-do-not-send="true">1.0.0.0/8</a>
issues perhaps?)</li>
<li>8.8.8.8 = 5 above 100ms</li>
<li>9.9.9.9 = 39 above 100ms (of which 1 was above 200ms!)</li>
<li>208.67.222.222 = 6 above 100ms (of which 4 were above
200ms!)</li>
</ul>
<div><br>
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<div>** One probe didn't get to the last hop on any of the
traceroutes, so I excluded it from the above numbers.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>If you do use one of these then choose carefully as you
could end up with very high DNS RTTs from some networks.<br>
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<div>If anyone wants me to run the same against another public
resolver let me know, and I'll post the results again. Maybe
I'll run this again in a month and see who's improved and who
hasn't if there is interest.<br>
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<div><br>
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<div>Gav</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 2 April 2018 at 09:02, James Deck <span
dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jdeck@1300webpro.com.au"
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<div>We've been using 9.9.9.9, which does not resolve some
known "bad" traffic (eg. phishing).</div>
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<div>My understanding is that the have been unable to peer
to the major ISPs here, so their traffic routes aren't
always direct, but I like the security aspect of it. </div>
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<span class="">On 2 Apr 2018, at 10:12 am, Andrew Yager
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In case you missed it, despite Easter and April
Fools day, CloudFlare, in conjunction APNIC have
launched a new public DNS server at 1.1.1.1 and
1.0.0.1 (IPv4) and 2606:4700:4700::1111 and
2606:4700:4007::1001 (IPv6).
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moz-do-not-send="true">https://1.1.1.1/</a></div>
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<div>Quick tests have suggested it is quite fast
compared with Google's resolvers (seeing an
average of 23ms on queries as opposed to an
average of 700ms) and sensible results on CDN
queries.</div>
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<div>While initially a 5 year research project,
it does look quite promising from my 20 minute
digging around.</div>
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<div>Happy easter all :)</div>
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