<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">... and FTTP being passive rather than powered, not needing upgrading / replacement for a <i class="">much</i> longer time, easier to install and not mixing media types<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I know I'd much rather find a pit that looks like this: <a href="https://i.nextmedia.com.au/Utils/ImageResizer.ashx?n=http://i.nextmedia.com.au/Galleries/20110210041140_kiama9.JPG&h=450&w=800&c=0&s=0" class="">https://i.nextmedia.com.au/Utils/ImageResizer.ashx?n=http%3A%2F%2Fi.nextmedia.com.au%2FGalleries%2F20110210041140_kiama9.JPG&h=450&w=800&c=0&s=0</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 1 Feb 2018, at 1:59 pm, Mark Andrews <<a href="mailto:marka@isc.org" class="">marka@isc.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">And hopefully go straight to FTTP if there isn’t a existing copper lead-in<br class="">in a FTTC area. It cost basically the same to trench for copper as it<br class="">costs to trench for fibre.<br class=""><br class="">Mark<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On 1 Feb 2018, at 1:29 pm, Matthew Moyle-Croft <<a href="mailto:mmc@mmc.com.au" class="">mmc@mmc.com.au</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">FTTC is just an interim step - you still build the same GPON network but you avoid the expensive part which is the bit from the curb to the house. Over time you just start converting the drops into fibre - either because people pay you or the copper drop dies. <br class=""><br class="">It feels like a bit of an ugly interim step, but I think, compared to FTTN it’s much better. I suspect that NBNco will come up with a fairly standard Cu to Fibre drop replacement cost.<br class=""><br class="">MMC<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On 31 Jan 2018, at 5:46 pm, Mark Tees <<a href="mailto:marktees@gmail.com" class="">marktees@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">Looks better than the vast majority of pitts?<br class=""><br class="">Looks like this <a href="https://www.netcommwireless.com/what-we-do/network-terminating-devices/fibre-distribution-point-fttdp" class="">https://www.netcommwireless.com/what-we-do/network-terminating-devices/fibre-distribution-point-fttdp</a><br class=""><br class="">Still way better than VDSL over 400m of copper.<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">On Thu, 1 Feb 2018 at 05:49, Sam McLeod <<a href="mailto:ausnog@smcleod.net" class="">ausnog@smcleod.net</a>> wrote:<br class="">Pretty disgraceful: <a href="https://i.imgur.com/BVvzinL.jpg" class="">https://i.imgur.com/BVvzinL.jpg</a><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Source: "The Sizzle" - <a href="https://share.thesizzle.com.au/sizzleshare/?id=4598" class="">https://share.thesizzle.com.au/sizzleshare/?id=4598</a><br class=""><br class="">"Someone on Whirlpool has uploaded pics of what an NBN fibre to the curb (FTTC/FTTdp) install looks like. The best pics are deeper in the thread, of the Netcomm unit that takes the NBN fibre and splits it out to the existing copper connections that go to the homes, sitting in the pit. Apparently the fibre to copper units support G.Fast, but only offer VDSL2 for now. For those in an FTTC area, the box you get in your home that you connect your router to, looks like this, and provides power to that box in the street pit. Thanks to cwd, who posted this in The Sizzle's Slack channel afternoon!"<br class=""><br class="">--<br class="">Sam McLeod (protoporpoise on IRC)<br class=""><a href="https://smcleod.net" class="">https://smcleod.net</a><br class="">https://twitter.com/s_mcleod<br class=""><br class="">Words are my own opinions and do not necessarily represent those of my employer or partners.<br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">AusNOG mailing list<br class="">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net<br class="">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog<br class="">-- <br class="">Regards,<br class=""><br class="">Mark L. Tees<br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">AusNOG mailing list<br class="">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net<br class="">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">AusNOG mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net" class="">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br class="">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">-- <br class="">Mark Andrews, ISC<br class="">1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia<br class="">PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: <a href="mailto:marka@isc.org" class="">marka@isc.org</a><br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">AusNOG mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net" class="">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br class="">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog<br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>