<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Yeah we end up having to do this and route traffic via Vocus at times with TPG/AAPT/PIPE traffic as TPG no longer peer with public IX exchanges.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://www.ix.asn.au/peers-vic/" class="">https://www.ix.asn.au/peers-vic/</a></div><div class=""><a href="https://www.ix.asn.au/peers-nsw/" class="">https://www.ix.asn.au/peers-nsw/</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Related, this means that if you have sites behind Cloudflare (who do peer with IX) as a CDN / DDoS protection for example all your traffic routes off-shore with TPG & Friends - <a href="https://blog.cloudflare.com/bandwidth-costs-around-the-world/" class="">https://blog.cloudflare.com/bandwidth-costs-around-the-world/</a></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 25 Dec 2017, at 11:51 am, Christopher Hawker <<a href="mailto:christopher@allitservices.com.au" class="">christopher@allitservices.com.au</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="position: relative;" class=""><p class="ImprintUniqueID" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"></p><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">A workaround I used was to route the traffic to my network in a DC. Reduces the latency by about 200ms and drops the number of hops.</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all.</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">CH.</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><br class=""></div><div id="composer_signature" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><div dir="auto" style="font-size: 11.050000190734863px; color: rgb(87, 87, 87);" class="">Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.</div></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-strok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-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">Date: 25/12/17 10:08 am (GMT+10:30)</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">To: <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" class="">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">Subject: Re: [AusNOG] AAPT Routing Issue</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><p class="">Yup I get the same issue - works perfectly from my peered network but on a relatives Foxtel (read: Telstra) connection it goes overseas.<br class=""><br class="">If only there was enough of this type of traffic to force the big guys onto peering fabrics.<br class=""></p><br class=""><div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 23/12/17 20:02, Nathan Brookfield wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class="">It doesn’t look like a problem as such to me, just that AAPT don’t peer anywhere that has a more specific AU route and the originator are not advertising to Transit in AU, only Peering fabrics.<br class=""><br class=""><div class="">Nathan Brookfield<div class="">Chief Executive Officer</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Simtronic Technologies Pty Ltd</div><div class=""><a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://www.simtronic.com.au&c=E,1,OeMtMwJAOVzKo0K1LM3ICJNgX8Q59HNH3YDjrrSfqmyK3zVTrQc-Hqe9J6pHaHnjjOpEEy-ZZSM3GLXxhbgP7I7pe8I-N0o6d0VqgZZT&typo=1" class="">http://www.simtronic.com.au</a></div></div><div class=""><br class="">On 23 Dec 2017, at 19:59, Christopher Hawker <<a href="mailto:me@chrishawker.com.au" class="">me@chrishawker.com.au</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div id="divtagdefaultwrapper" dir="ltr" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><p class="">Hi All,</p><p class=""><br class=""></p><p class="">It appears as though AAPT has a routing issue. For some reason when pinging IBM's Quad9, it goes overseas:</p><p class=""><br class=""></p><div class="">C:\Users\CH>tracert 9.9.9.9</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Tracing route to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://dns.quad9.net&c=E,1,qHd3ixGR9AlX9V6DzUeJJ-DZL_b-LGLqABMI3p7WpYHKTKqEGL2hwvCAIGHt4XagHTv-i1AyCp2yEzJkW1rhF89gA3To0swTl1wwQBL06qN8U45e0ejpjFE,&typo=1" class="">dns.quad9.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[9.9.9.9]</div><div class="">over a maximum of 30 hops:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  172.16.0.6</div><div class="">  2     *        *        *     Request timed out.</div><div class="">  3     9 ms     8 ms     9 ms <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://po41.sglebbrdr11.aapt.net.au&c=E,1,v-I2XvDzp_pHcCMZ2YKFIxqibyD1glspuDRFJxuKJ9q919LP9AsEjJjQESjhhJNoyDGN9vx1H5GQljwu81P-kKrH3jv5w0NC31hoYAPiDsB604YKyb9s83sD&typo=1" class="">po41.sglebbrdr11.aapt.net.au</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[202.10.14.198]</div><div class="">  4     9 ms    14 ms     9 ms <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://syd-gls-har-wgw1-be-30.tpgi.com.au&c=E,1,0sAOb-sjvkiEGJvCUoLoYcwvqJKrq-_OskYHs5XHm1IwLmkk4psRwgs415_4wBx93P2iDctgax1Tlee6ubXOmShC79OI_5gq3_frE_1ieYnEuPEp&typo=1" class="">syd-gls-har-wgw1-be-30.tpgi.com.au</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[203.219.107.197]</div><div class="">  5    15 ms    14 ms    15 ms  203.29.134-<a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://67.tpgi.com.au&c=E,1,CLPc01KR2oxn__RWhlxV66TV-o-cY-7JxeBZ5b8p21AB7GQc0ur4y7c2vA6fNgW3_Hn2CXME51Cwpi0Riy3TLKwLUZWYxFXISIzwT7TKLxvxcRGqppfkgqks778,&typo=1" class="">67.tpgi.com.au</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[203.29.134.67]</div><div class="">  6   149 ms   180 ms   150 ms <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://ix-ae-18-0.tcore1.HK2-Hong-Kong.as6453.net&c=E,1,8YfJpAtslAYRcCjK5id56jF_begz5prZCuUl1docEP_eyUvXI692cxBasgNWxoSUDOsF8hKlgt3dEvIPFlNKyeKTTwFrLugGSBXJGWf1InG9Sg0W21Lkbvg,&typo=1" class="">ix-ae-18-0.tcore1.HK2-Hong-Kong.as6453.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[180.87.112.221]</div><div class="">  7   344 ms   368 ms   368 ms <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://xe0-3-2-10G.ar2.CLK1.gblx.net&c=E,1,mP3z_ChbjHx0MF57Ql3fPrO6tjGPghvaUR3reZeAHRiil6HWf7sf9pIlUPzDm9pDYPuumvJ3I-a_LM_5Ydu1RazDbOjxWz7wU_zz5F_c&typo=1" class="">xe0-3-2-10G.ar2.CLK1.gblx.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[64.212.107.9]</div><div class="">  8   301 ms   293 ms   272 ms <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://ae1-30G.ar1.QPG2.gblx.net&c=E,1,8FQxuTtGmfMUYNqPb05tr6qBGmee_sfCoGpzQ92PnbVczohcTNKCk126ApeB6hQTMFUCuzv5-p47YYNg9kopn6nMJm2ovbUz9w1JaXPGf3e9Pqo,&typo=1" class="">ae1-30G.ar1.QPG2.gblx.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[67.16.132.174]</div><div class="">  9   283 ms   304 ms   303 ms  64.214.66.70</div><div class=""> 10   293 ms   269 ms   264 ms <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://dns.quad9.net&c=E,1,KeE3IxL5xuM_L1nmsRSPVViVKn4Y5VqCvJMkIXJM0CxjwgLiaeu2Oi2UPL44eRCzqFl0zeUVySc6bcyP-kM-u0fvhgETufmTMmTI7ajlm_TZnxC_ZYdJeTfm&typo=1" class="">dns.quad9.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[9.9.9.9]</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Trace complete.</div><p class=""><br class=""></p><p class="">However from an Over the Wire service, it goes to their Sydney server (as below):</p><p class=""><br class=""></p><div class="">C:\Users\CH>tracert 9.9.9.9</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Tracing route to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://dns.quad9.net&c=E,1,KbQqUZysa6lb5YCIZbHCJk8zbJhM_LpMkKb724UeOhwV9KNi-mlijobOMjegZ_BkH0RaZIOHmMHrJ0pZmd7x-3gwyz4BAapg6CIBjmZ7AGp06w45evD_HgY,&typo=1" class="">dns.quad9.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[9.9.9.9]</div><div class="">over a maximum of 30 hops:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.3.254</div><div class="">  2     1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn</div><div class="">  3     3 ms     2 ms     2 ms <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="">nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn</span></div><div class="">  4     3 ms     3 ms     3 ms <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="">nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn</span></div><div class="">  5     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https://thisisobfuscatedtext.syd.core.otw.net.au&c=E,1,6k7KJt529F2YGa6JIPg1okh1dv8x4MePx00IOQi0stJ5Z0ln9Ds0WEcdEKSZvm-8uaUBvka6VT8e8XgAc_6uSMs1Nq1yHWTJnBjECeJHHjA,&typo=1" class="">thisisobfuscatedtext.syd.core.otw.net.au</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn]</div><div class="">  6     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  10.254.251.164</div><div class="">  7     2 ms     4 ms     2 ms <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://42.syd.equinix.com&c=E,1,nBhdVKNFDgbjn93FA5BywTe5v0ei4CRH2DMmQpyzWC96y0P-LCP5FmTEGWQexAesx0DdD-eRldQ_9iJOALjtw1gWG_SeZT5Yey7zeiJCCCoYxp8,&typo=1" class="">42.syd.equinix.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[45.127.172.68]</div><div class="">  8     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://dns.quad9.net&c=E,1,EAjOoMwN7BmYyBfCIc9vZbGG1_AsSjAEbWICurpbOXRVBlwDNszeRUsr9qr77wTGB3MwDphv1Snxq95REufuQEv60OhV0rqvL8wVSnI27sZuDitJo59uz6ToRfs,&typo=1" class="">dns.quad9.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[9.9.9.9]</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Trace complete.</div><br class=""><p class="">Any idea what the possible issue is?</p><p class=""><br class=""></p><p class="">Thanks,</p><p class="">CH.</p></div></div><div class=""><span class="">_______________________________________________</span><br class=""><span class="">AusNOG mailing list</span><br class=""><span class=""><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net" class="">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a></span><br class=""><span class=""><a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog&c=E,1,2F01LUo38JbUBQFWI1nHy2F9WIMyUUVQDnPhLz1IoGmKi_sdi47RbIkDN8XTJFR-q_73SzdMwGBsR6c3phRlYBW2MvWmo2pUbDRSOaxJ9Q,,&typo=1" class="">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a></span><br class=""></div><br class=""><fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset><br class=""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