<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">There are specialist csp’s that have more diverse connectivity then the big guys. <div>We for example have transit to each of the gang of 4 plus all the peering exchanges.</div><div><br></div><div>There are others also with great connectivity in that space. </div><div><br></div><div>Matt</div><div><br><div id="AppleMailSignature"><div><br></div><div>-- </div><div>/* Matt Perkins</div><div> Direct 1300 137 379 Spectrum Networks Ptd. Ltd.</div><div> Office 1300 133 299 <a href="mailto:matt@spectrum.com.au">matt@spectrum.com.au</a></div><div> Fax 1300 133 255 Level 6, 350 George Street Sydney 2000</div><div> SIP <a href="mailto:1300137379@sip.spectrum.com.au">1300137379@sip.spectrum.com.au</a></div><div> Google Talk <a href="mailto:MattAPerkins@gmail.com">MattAPerkins@gmail.com</a></div><div> PGP/GNUPG Public Key can be found at <a href="http://pgp.mit.edu">http://pgp.mit.edu</a></div><div>*/</div></div><div><br>On 25 Dec 2017, at 11:51 am, Christopher Hawker <<a href="mailto:christopher@allitservices.com.au">christopher@allitservices.com.au</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<div>A workaround I used was to route the traffic to my network in a DC. Reduces the latency by about 200ms and drops the number of hops.</div>
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<div>From: Joseph Goldman <<a href="mailto:joe@apcs.com.au">joe@apcs.com.au</a>> </div>
<div>Date: 25/12/17 10:08 am (GMT+10:30) </div>
<div>To: <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a> </div>
<div>Subject: Re: [AusNOG] AAPT Routing Issue </div>
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<p>Yup I get the same issue - works perfectly from my peered network but on a relatives Foxtel (read: Telstra) connection it goes overseas.<br>
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If only there was enough of this type of traffic to force the big guys onto peering fabrics.<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">It doesn’t look like a problem as such to me, just that AAPT don’t peer anywhere that has a more specific AU route and the originator are not advertising to Transit in AU, only Peering fabrics.<br>
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On 23 Dec 2017, at 19:59, Christopher Hawker <<a href="mailto:me@chrishawker.com.au">me@chrishawker.com.au</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p>It appears as though AAPT has a routing issue. For some reason when pinging IBM's Quad9, it goes overseas:</p>
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<div>C:\Users\CH>tracert 9.9.9.9</div>
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<div>Tracing route to <a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://dns.quad9.net&c=E,1,qHd3ixGR9AlX9V6DzUeJJ-DZL_b-LGLqABMI3p7WpYHKTKqEGL2hwvCAIGHt4XagHTv-i1AyCp2yEzJkW1rhF89gA3To0swTl1wwQBL06qN8U45e0ejpjFE,&typo=1">
dns.quad9.net</a> [9.9.9.9]</div>
<div>over a maximum of 30 hops:</div>
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<div> 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 172.16.0.6</div>
<div> 2 * * * Request timed out.</div>
<div> 3 9 ms 8 ms 9 ms <a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://po41.sglebbrdr11.aapt.net.au&c=E,1,v-I2XvDzp_pHcCMZ2YKFIxqibyD1glspuDRFJxuKJ9q919LP9AsEjJjQESjhhJNoyDGN9vx1H5GQljwu81P-kKrH3jv5w0NC31hoYAPiDsB604YKyb9s83sD&typo=1">
po41.sglebbrdr11.aapt.net.au</a> [202.10.14.198]</div>
<div> 4 9 ms 14 ms 9 ms <a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://syd-gls-har-wgw1-be-30.tpgi.com.au&c=E,1,0sAOb-sjvkiEGJvCUoLoYcwvqJKrq-_OskYHs5XHm1IwLmkk4psRwgs415_4wBx93P2iDctgax1Tlee6ubXOmShC79OI_5gq3_frE_1ieYnEuPEp&typo=1">
syd-gls-har-wgw1-be-30.tpgi.com.au</a> [203.219.107.197]</div>
<div> 5 15 ms 14 ms 15 ms 203.29.134-<a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://67.tpgi.com.au&c=E,1,CLPc01KR2oxn__RWhlxV66TV-o-cY-7JxeBZ5b8p21AB7GQc0ur4y7c2vA6fNgW3_Hn2CXME51Cwpi0Riy3TLKwLUZWYxFXISIzwT7TKLxvxcRGqppfkgqks778,&typo=1">67.tpgi.com.au</a>
[203.29.134.67]</div>
<div> 6 149 ms 180 ms 150 ms <a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://ix-ae-18-0.tcore1.HK2-Hong-Kong.as6453.net&c=E,1,8YfJpAtslAYRcCjK5id56jF_begz5prZCuUl1docEP_eyUvXI692cxBasgNWxoSUDOsF8hKlgt3dEvIPFlNKyeKTTwFrLugGSBXJGWf1InG9Sg0W21Lkbvg,&typo=1">
ix-ae-18-0.tcore1.HK2-Hong-Kong.as6453.net</a> [180.87.112.221]</div>
<div> 7 344 ms 368 ms 368 ms <a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://xe0-3-2-10G.ar2.CLK1.gblx.net&c=E,1,mP3z_ChbjHx0MF57Ql3fPrO6tjGPghvaUR3reZeAHRiil6HWf7sf9pIlUPzDm9pDYPuumvJ3I-a_LM_5Ydu1RazDbOjxWz7wU_zz5F_c&typo=1">
xe0-3-2-10G.ar2.CLK1.gblx.net</a> [64.212.107.9]</div>
<div> 8 301 ms 293 ms 272 ms <a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://ae1-30G.ar1.QPG2.gblx.net&c=E,1,8FQxuTtGmfMUYNqPb05tr6qBGmee_sfCoGpzQ92PnbVczohcTNKCk126ApeB6hQTMFUCuzv5-p47YYNg9kopn6nMJm2ovbUz9w1JaXPGf3e9Pqo,&typo=1">
ae1-30G.ar1.QPG2.gblx.net</a> [67.16.132.174]</div>
<div> 9 283 ms 304 ms 303 ms 64.214.66.70</div>
<div> 10 293 ms 269 ms 264 ms <a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://dns.quad9.net&c=E,1,KeE3IxL5xuM_L1nmsRSPVViVKn4Y5VqCvJMkIXJM0CxjwgLiaeu2Oi2UPL44eRCzqFl0zeUVySc6bcyP-kM-u0fvhgETufmTMmTI7ajlm_TZnxC_ZYdJeTfm&typo=1">
dns.quad9.net</a> [9.9.9.9]</div>
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<div>Trace complete.</div>
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<p>However from an Over the Wire service, it goes to their Sydney server (as below):</p>
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<div>C:\Users\CH>tracert 9.9.9.9</div>
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<div>Tracing route to <a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://dns.quad9.net&c=E,1,KbQqUZysa6lb5YCIZbHCJk8zbJhM_LpMkKb724UeOhwV9KNi-mlijobOMjegZ_BkH0RaZIOHmMHrJ0pZmd7x-3gwyz4BAapg6CIBjmZ7AGp06w45evD_HgY,&typo=1">
dns.quad9.net</a> [9.9.9.9]</div>
<div>over a maximum of 30 hops:</div>
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<div> 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.3.254</div>
<div> 2 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn</div>
<div> 3 3 ms 2 ms 2 ms <span style="">nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn</span></div>
<div> 4 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms <span>nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn</span></div>
<div> 5 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms <a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https://thisisobfuscatedtext.syd.core.otw.net.au&c=E,1,6k7KJt529F2YGa6JIPg1okh1dv8x4MePx00IOQi0stJ5Z0ln9Ds0WEcdEKSZvm-8uaUBvka6VT8e8XgAc_6uSMs1Nq1yHWTJnBjECeJHHjA,&typo=1">
thisisobfuscatedtext.syd.core.otw.net.au</a> [nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn]</div>
<div> 6 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 10.254.251.164</div>
<div> 7 2 ms 4 ms 2 ms <a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://42.syd.equinix.com&c=E,1,nBhdVKNFDgbjn93FA5BywTe5v0ei4CRH2DMmQpyzWC96y0P-LCP5FmTEGWQexAesx0DdD-eRldQ_9iJOALjtw1gWG_SeZT5Yey7zeiJCCCoYxp8,&typo=1">
42.syd.equinix.com</a> [45.127.172.68]</div>
<div> 8 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms <a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://dns.quad9.net&c=E,1,EAjOoMwN7BmYyBfCIc9vZbGG1_AsSjAEbWICurpbOXRVBlwDNszeRUsr9qr77wTGB3MwDphv1Snxq95REufuQEv60OhV0rqvL8wVSnI27sZuDitJo59uz6ToRfs,&typo=1">
dns.quad9.net</a> [9.9.9.9]</div>
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<div>Trace complete.</div>
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<p>Any idea what the possible issue is?</p>
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