<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Their billing model is still “port speed based on line rate, aggregation based on peak CIR”, so it’s still completely broken.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">All they’ve done is fiddle around at the margins of the magnitude of the breakage.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Wake me up when they’re serious enough to bill aggregation on a flat-rate-per-port pricing model. Their costs don’t vary with consumed bandwidth, so there’s no reason (other than politics) why their price should.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">You people (ISP industry) need to be angrier about this. Every dollar of profit NBNco makes is a dollar of profit that’s been expropriated from your bottom line. When NBNco says they have a plan to increase ARPU, MPs should be able to hear your enraged screaming from Canberra. They’re just using fancy language to describe how they’re going to transfer wealth out of your industry and in to NBNco, eventually to be owned by Telstra.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> - mark</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Dec 13, 2017, at 11:29 PM, Nathan Brookfield <<a href="mailto:Nathan.Brookfield@simtronic.com.au" class="">Nathan.Brookfield@simtronic.com.au</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div id="divtagdefaultwrapper" dir="ltr" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">Well that shall be interesting, keen to see tomorrow mornings CommsDay.... It would certainly be a welcome and smart move but whether it will be enough' that's the question!</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div id="Signature" class=""><div id="divtagdefaultwrapper" style="font-size: 12pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, EmojiFont, 'Apple Color Emoji', 'Segoe UI Emoji', NotoColorEmoji, 'Segoe UI Symbol', 'Android Emoji', EmojiSymbols;" class=""><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""></p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: rgb(33, 33, 33);" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Kindest Regards,</span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: rgb(33, 33, 33);" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(54, 95, 145);" class="">Nathan Brookfield (VK2NAB)</span></div><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; 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font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: rgb(33, 33, 33);" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(54, 95, 145);" class="">Local:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(54, 95, 145);" class=""> (02) 4749 4949 <b class="">|</b> <b class="">Fax:</b> (02) 4749 4950 <b class="">|</b> <b class="">Direct:</b> (02) 4749 4951</span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: rgb(33, 33, 33);" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(54, 95, 145);" class="">Web</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(54, 95, 145);" class="">: <a href="http://www.simtronic.com.au/" target="_blank" id="LPNoLP" class=""><span style="color: rgb(54, 95, 145);" class="">http://www.simtronic.com.au</span></a> <b class="">|</b> <b class="">E-mail</b>: <a href="mailto:nathan.brookfield@simtronic.com.au" target="_blank" id="LPNoLP" class=""><span style="color: rgb(54, 95, 145);" class="">nathan.brookfield@simtronic.com.au</span></a></span></div><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: rgb(33, 33, 33);"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(54, 95, 145);" class=""> </span></p></div></div><div style="" class=""><hr tabindex="-1" style="display: inline-block; width: 839.859375px;" class=""><div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr" class=""><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>AusNOG <<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" class="">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>> on behalf of Glenn Lake <<a href="mailto:glenn.lake@team.e-vision.com.au" class="">glenn.lake@team.e-vision.com.au</a>><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, 13 December 2017 11:13 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>AusNOG<br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[AusNOG] NBN Price drops</font><div class=""> </div></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><div id="x_divtagdefaultwrapper" dir="ltr" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif, EmojiFont, 'Apple Color Emoji', 'Segoe UI Emoji', NotoColorEmoji, 'Segoe UI Symbol', 'Android Emoji', EmojiSymbols;" class=""><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">Anyone seen the news on price drops?</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">Just read tomorrow's Australian front page (preview sent by email) with the main story being about both tail and what looks like the CVC charge discounts.. detail is unreadable, but looks like new CVC charge to be $8 and faster connections to drop by 27%. It also looks like the tails will come with some CVC included..</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(0, 37, 93); font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;" class="">Glenn Lake</span><br class=""></div><div id="x_Signature" class=""><div id="x_divtagdefaultwrapper" dir="ltr" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, EmojiFont, 'Apple Color Emoji', 'Segoe UI Emoji', NotoColorEmoji, 'Segoe UI Symbol', 'Android Emoji', EmojiSymbols;" class=""><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(127, 127, 127);" class=""><br class=""></span><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: rgb(0, 37, 93);" class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">_______________________________________________</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">AusNOG mailing list</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=""><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net" class="">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a></span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=""><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" class="">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a></span></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>