<div dir="ltr">Surely you're making the assumption that "diverse" equals 2?<div><br></div><div>Without knowing their network it's impossible to conclude that the loss of a single path will have any meaningful impact on redundancy.<br><div><br></div><div>  Scott</div><div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 3:29 PM, Christopher Hawker <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:me@chrishawker.com.au" target="_blank">me@chrishawker.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">



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<p dir="ltr">Bryan, you hit the nail on the head. Of course they should. But hey, who will enforce it?</p><span class="">
<p dir="ltr">CH.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Sent from my Telstra 4GX Plus on the Telstra Mobile Network</p>
</span><div><div class="h5"><div class="m_-2055963896267000799quote">On 12 Dec 2017 10:26 PM, Bryan O'Reilly <<a href="mailto:bryan@telcoindependent.com.au" target="_blank">bryan@telcoindependent.com.au</a><wbr>> wrote:<br type="attribution">
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<p>So diverse routes are no longer diverse until the damaged cable is repaired?</p>
<p>That should create some sort of reporting, especially if you are paying for a diverse route, or am I looking at this the wrong way?</p>
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<p>On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 10:10:45 +0000, Nathan Brookfield <<a href="mailto:Nathan.Brookfield@simtronic.com.au" target="_blank">Nathan.Brookfield@simtronic.<wbr>com.au</a>> wrote:</p>
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<div>Diverse routes and paths so they don’t have to report it.</div>
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<div>The damaged duct is owned by Telstra, AAPT aren’t the only ones in it haha.</div>
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On 12 Dec 2017, at 21:09, Christopher Hawker <<a href="mailto:me@chrishawker.com.au" target="_blank">me@chrishawker.com.au</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p>Hi Nathan,</p>
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<p>Who is your source? That may be a different issue and Telstra is showing no outages, so either must be really delayed with updates or some other funky stuffs is going on.</p>
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<div dir="ltr"><span style="color:#000000;font-family:'calibri',sans-serif"><strong>From:</strong> Nathan Brookfield <<a href="mailto:Nathan.Brookfield@simtronic.com.au" target="_blank">Nathan.Brookfield@simtronic.<wbr>com.au</a>><br>
<strong>Sent:</strong> Tuesday, 12 December 2017 9:05:13 PM<br>
<strong>To:</strong> Christopher Hawker<br>
<strong>Cc:</strong> Andrew Jeffree; <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
<strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [AusNOG] Fiber cut</span>
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<div>The actual civil works which damaged the duct was in the CBD, on Liverpool Street.<br>
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<div>Nathan Brookfield
<div>Chief Executive Officer</div>
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<div>Simtronic Technologies Pty Ltd</div>
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On 12 Dec 2017, at 20:39, Christopher Hawker <<a href="mailto:me@chrishawker.com.au" target="_blank">me@chrishawker.com.au</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p dir="ltr">Looks like TPG has had (yet another) fiber cut: <a href="https://www.tpg.com.au/servicestatus/servicestatus.php?category=16&timeframe=last24" target="_blank">
https://www.tpg.com.au/<wbr>servicestatus/servicestatus.<wbr>php?category=16&timeframe=<wbr>last24</a></p>
<p dir="ltr">And it's eastern suburbs in Sydney.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Thanks,<br>
CH.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Sent from my Telstra 4GX Plus on the Telstra Mobile Network</p>
<div>On 12 Dec 2017 8:30 PM, Andrew Jeffree <<a href="mailto:andrew@jeffree.id.au" target="_blank">andrew@jeffree.id.au</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">It may be worth specifying the State and/or City to help others determine what you're talking about...</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 8:29 PM Christopher Hawker <<a href="mailto:me@chrishawker.com.au" target="_blank">me@chrishawker.com.au</a>> wrote:</div>
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Is anyone aware of a fiber cut in/near the Eastern Suburbs? AAPT said there is an outage due to a cut.<br>
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Thanks,<br>
CH.<br>
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Sent from my Telstra 4GX Plus on the Telstra Mobile Network<br>
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