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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hey All<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">No, we have not done optical loss testing. We’re a IaaS and thought instead of Etherchanneling 4 x 1GB, we’d go crazy and try 10GB.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">We’re not a multimillion $ setup, it is something we wanted to dabble in, as all the documents seem to suggest Plug and Play. I’m not really sure anymore, it seems AusNog is just for huge companies
only. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Just to clarify, it is in Intel Card with Cisco SFPs connecting to a ZyXEL off MM with a 3meter range.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Based on the feed back:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Intel don’t play nice with anything but Intel, but it “should” work.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">It’s probably one of the tech cleaning the fibre endpoints with their fingers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">And no one has even mentioned ZyXEL, which speaks volumes…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">We keep seeing “</span>Mellanox” everywhere. Looking at going end to end with them, new MM cables etc.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks all, it was not quite plug and play as I thought it would be, but we’re learning.<span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Burt Mascareigne<br>
Mobile</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> 0414 450 962 <b>Office</b> (02) 9965 5422<br>
<b>Address</b> Level 19, 1 O’Connell Street, Sydney NSW 2000<br>
<b>Web</b> <a href="http://www.stormnetwork.com.au/"><span style="color:#1F497D">http://www.stormnetwork.com.au</span></a><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert Hudson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 9 November 2017 9:42 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mike Taylor <mtaylor@totalteam.co.nz><br>
<b>Cc:</b> ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] 10GBs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Grab an optical fibre scope while you're at it. It's amazing how dirty your cable ends and recepticals can actually be.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">And for the love of $deity, make sure nobody's done something as stupid (been there, done that - I had an excuse because I was new to working with fibre, the major carrier datacentre operators less so - yes, they did it too) as plugging
SC cables into SCA recepticals or vice versa.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Have you done optical loss testing? Some network gear can tell you directly what your tx and rx power levels are.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 9 Nov. 2017 7:03 am, "Mike Taylor" <<a href="mailto:mtaylor@totalteam.co.nz">mtaylor@totalteam.co.nz</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>So, yeah, Layer1 first, apply your fibre cleaning tools to the fibres, SFPs, patch leads etc.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>10gig gets very very twitchy if the cables and SFPs aren't cleaned properly...<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Better still, swap out all the patch leads for brand new ones and see what happens...<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Mike<o:p></o:p></p>
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<pre><span style="color:#888888">Mike Taylor<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:#888888">The Total Team<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There is no trial and error. <span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Start at Layer 1, and work up the stack.</span>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Correct setup and good logging should resolve it.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There are lots of potential issues. You can cut some of them down immediately by selecting hardware on the hypervisor supplier's HCL - they should have good drivers for the 10Gbps NICs at that point.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Speed/duplex, frame size, etc, all need to be consistent across the entire environment. Get wireshark or an equivalent involved (using a mirror port if necessary).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If your hardware and software are all under full support, involve your vendors in the issue.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 8 Nov. 2017 1:23 pm, "Burt Mascareigne" <<a href="mailto:Burt@stormnetwork.com.au" target="_blank">Burt@stormnetwork.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hi Noggers<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">We’re having “fun” with 10GB NICS, Switches and SFPs.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">We can’t work out which is causing drop out, packets.. we are somewhat certain packets are vanishing into the Ether..<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">We don’t know which is causing what.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I’m not after troubleshooting, I am curious what people’s view on this.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Do you buy 1 Vendor for all your 10GBs, A-Z, is there some hidden rule about mixing vendors, is this all trial and error (and very expensive at best)?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Any recommendations on set ups? Preferred Vendors, Vender to avoid like the plague. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">We’re talking Servers to Switch kind of thing. Not SANs etc. Good ol’ HyperVisor to the switch.<o:p></o:p></p>
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