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    Tagging onto this - does the same go for your out-of-band equipment?
    (those that have it)<br>
    <br>
    Cheers, <br>
    Ken<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 29/08/17 09:23, Nick Pratley wrote:<br>
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      We do something similar and have found that if you mount the
      switches in the middle of the racks at the back – at least with
      the APC PDUs we use there is nothing in the way – tend to mount
      them where the screen is on the rails. Just enough room for 3
      switches there.
      <br>
      <br>
      Top switch for servers in the top half, middle switch for IPMI /
      drac and the bottom switch for the servers in the bottom half. It
      works quite well, the cabling is nice and neat and doesn’t get in
      the way of anything.
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      <br>
      Regards,
      <br>
      Nick
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      On 29/8/17, 9:11 am, "AusNOG on behalf of Peter Tiggerdine"
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      Depends on the way the fans spins and what's best for thermal
      dynamics.
      <br>
      <br>
      Some of the Cisco, juniper and Brocade kit you can get fans that
      spin
      <br>
      in either direction. if so then I tend to put ports in the cold
      isle
      <br>
      and suck the air through the switch by preference. This is largely
      to
      <br>
      carter for hot SFP's like QSFP's, XENpacks etc.. and the like.
      Also
      <br>
      working in the cold isle tends to be easier.
      <br>
      <br>
      Cables passing through the racks isn't a bad thing as long as rack
      <br>
      dimensions carter for it (yes Fuj I'm looking at you >:( ).
      <br>
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      Regards,
      <br>
      <br>
      Peter Tiggerdine
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      On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 9:02 AM, James Cunningham
      <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jjazza26@gmail.com"><jjazza26@gmail.com></a> wrote:
      <br>
      > Hi Guys,
      <br>
      >
      <br>
      > This is an age old discussion that I have had with many
      people over the
      <br>
      > years, but am keen to find out what other people think about
      installing
      <br>
      > switches into data centre racks.
      <br>
      >
      <br>
      > Say for example you have 4 network switches to install into a
      rack (standard
      <br>
      > 600mm rack), along with 20-30 1RU and 2RU servers.
      <br>
      >
      <br>
      > Would you install the switches facing forwards, or install
      the switches
      <br>
      > facing backwards?
      <br>
      >
      <br>
      > The way I see it, there are various pros and cons of each
      approach:
      <br>
      >
      <br>
      > FORWARD FACING
      <br>
      > PROS
      <br>
      > Easy to install and remove the switch from the front of the
      rack, as power
      <br>
      > cords are not in the way
      <br>
      > Most switches expect this installation for air flow, but some
      switches do
      <br>
      > have reversible fans.
      <br>
      >
      <br>
      > CONS
      <br>
      > You must route the cables from the front of the rack, to the
      back of the
      <br>
      > rack where the server network ports are, leading to cable
      clutter within the
      <br>
      > rack.
      <br>
      >
      <br>
      > REAR FACING
      <br>
      > PROS
      <br>
      > Cable distance and cable mess going from the switches to the
      servers is alot
      <br>
      > less.
      <br>
      >
      <br>
      > CONS
      <br>
      > When it comes to removing the switch, it's very difficult
      with a fully
      <br>
      > loaded rack, as the power cables tend to get in the way from
      the vertical
      <br>
      > PDUs at the back.
      <br>
      >
      <br>
      > Has anyone else had some detailed thoughts about the best way
      to rack mount
      <br>
      > data centre network switches?
      <br>
      >
      <br>
      > Thanks in advance.
      <br>
      >
      <br>
      > James
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