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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I agree Unlimited is Unlimited.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>That being said, it certainly wouldn’t hurt to talk to them and explain the situation.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Murat Sener<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 28, 2017 1:49 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Brent Paddon'; James Cunningham<br><b>Cc:</b> ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Business customer smashing their "unlimited" MBE 20/20Mbps internet service<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>As long as the data downloaded/uploaded and the internet activity is not illegal then unlimited would stand fair usage normally would cover you for illegal activity.<o:p></o:p></span></a></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> AusNOG [<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Brent Paddon<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 28 September 2017 1:46 PM<br><b>To:</b> James Cunningham <<a href="mailto:jjazza26@gmail.com">jjazza26@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Business customer smashing their "unlimited" MBE 20/20Mbps internet service<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>To me, unlimited means unlimited. If you didn't mean it, why did you sell it as such?<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Fair use policies are bogus IMHO.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Brent<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 1:20 PM, James Cunningham <<a href="mailto:jjazza26@gmail.com" target="_blank">jjazza26@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hello Ausnog,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>We have a customer who we are providing a 20Mbps AAPT Wholesale, MBE e-line service for, and we have given them the service with Unlimited Internet data - but subject to fair use.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The customer is smashing the service, 100% of the time, running it at at the full 19-20Mbps, 24/7, every single day, including weekends. This is resulting in 5-6TB of internet data that they are transferring through us, and our IP transit upstream, which is obviously costing us a fair chunk in IP transit costs.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>We haven't said anything to the customer, but I'm curious to see what other people would consider "fair use" of an business grade, unlimited Internet service.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>We already peer with Megaport and IX-Australia so we try to minimise our IP transit costs as much as possible, but this traffic is going directly Telstra, and we are loosing out on this particular customer. Do we just suck it up, or would you increase the customers monthly fee, throttle them, etc?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thoughts here would be appreciated.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888'>James<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>AusNOG mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#5F6062'>MESSAGE PROTECTED BY <a href="http://www.premiertech.com.au"><b><span style='color:#5F6062'>PREMIER TECHNOLOGY SOLUTIONS</span></b></a> - POWERED BY <a href="http://www.mailguard.com.au/mg"><b><span style='color:#5F6062'>MAILGUARD</span></b></a>.</span> <br><a href="https://console.mailguard.com.au/ras/1RLpa6mpPV/7yCq2Bmaru1lQRGgDCzPtj/1.2">Report this message as spam</a> <br> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#5F6062'>MESSAGE PROTECTED BY <a href="http://www.premiertech.com.au"><b><span style='color:#5F6062'>PREMIER TECHNOLOGY SOLUTIONS</span></b></a> - POWERED BY <a href="http://www.mailguard.com.au/mg"><b><span style='color:#5F6062'>MAILGUARD</span></b></a>.</span> <br> <o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>