Hey Chad,<div><br></div><div>That's a pretty general site you're pointing to.<div><br></div><div>Could you possibly be a bit more specific? Clicked through a couple of links on it but everything was very high level.</div><div><br></div><div><span></span>As I noted elsewhere I am in SA but my employer is national so keeping across all this is never a bad thing.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br></div><div>Sam<br><br>On Friday, 11 August 2017, Chad Kelly <<a href="mailto:chad@cpkws.com.au">chad@cpkws.com.au</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>It comes under the Victorian Occupational Health and safety Act
2004 from the bit of reading I did yesterday. <br>
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<p><a href="https://www.worksafe.vic.gov.au/laws/ohs" target="_blank">https://www.worksafe.vic.gov.<wbr>au/laws/ohs</a> <br>
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<div>On 8/11/2017 10:17 AM, Jared Hirst
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to know what law Simon was referring too?</div>
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Jared Hirst<br>
Servers Australia Pty Ltd<br>
Phone: +61 2 8115 8801<br>
Email: <a dir="ltr" href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jared.hirst@serversaustralia.com.au');" target="_blank">jared.hirst@serversaustralia.<wbr>com.au</a></div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 11, 2017 4:54:10 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Nathan Brookfield<br>
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<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ausnog-request@lists.ausnog.net');" target="_blank">ausnog-request@lists.ausnog.<wbr>net</a>; Chad Kelly<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] NextDC Melbourne - Scheduled
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<div>As someone who has run colo facilities
before:<br>
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It should be made completely clear during customer
onboarding that the facility operator can temporarily shut
down a power feed at any time. Advance warning should be
desirable but optional.<br>
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If there is risk involved in doing that, it’s your job to
mitigate it. The facility operator doesn’t know which bits
of equipment in your tenancy are critical, and they’ve
already told you to dual-feed where possible and use a
rack-mount ATS for single-corded equipment.<br>
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Power work should be done during business hours, because
it’s almost impossible to get emergency support or source
replacement equipment out of hours.<br>
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If it isn’t safe to take a power feed offline during
business hours, then you (the customer) have a design
problem to solve.<br>
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- mark<br>
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> On Aug 10, 2017, at 6:56 AM, Nathan Brookfield
<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Nathan.Brookfield@simtronic.com.au');" target="_blank"><Nathan.Brookfield@simtronic.<wbr>com.au></a> wrote:<br>
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> Chad,<br>
> <br>
> That's all well and good but when you're paying a
premium price for services of this fashion you expect a
certain level of service. There is a risk no matter what
when switching from power supplies taking extra load they
would not usually take as well as swing load issues with
PDU's.<br>
> <br>
> I completely agree with your sentiment but the risk is
not to be ignored especially during those times.<br>
> <br>
> Kindest Regards,<br>
> Nathan Brookfield (VK2NAB)<br>
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> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 2:54 PM<br>
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> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] NextDC Melbourne - Scheduled
Power Maintenance -, 15th August<br>
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> On 8/10/2017 10:13 AM, <a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ausnog-request@lists.ausnog.net');" target="_blank">ausnog-request@lists.ausnog.<wbr>net</a>
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>> From the latest update today, It appears that most
of the works are <br>
>> being postponed for the time being<br>
>> <br>
>> Not all devices within racks support 2 feeds and
planning is involved <br>
>> with these devices, which is why it is crucial to
receive accurate information about any pending outages or
upgrades to the NextDC DataCentres which affect services.<br>
> If these services are mission critical then you really
should have duel PSU units, so that when one feed gets taken
offline the equipment automatically switches to the other
feed. They won't just disconnect both feeds at once because
that would be stupid and if the entire DC was offline for
too much time then that would put the owners in a rather
awkward situation legally, as after say 8 or 10 hours of
downtime it wouldn't be good for the owners lets put it that
way.<br>
> If the single PSU units are a part of a customers
co-located equipment then really your terms of service
agreement should exclude liability under your maintenance
clauses.<br>
> I don't understand why anyone would be using single PSU
equipment in a DC environment now a days when you can buy
refurbished servers that come with two PSU as standard even
when you buy them without raid.<br>
> Also for anything that is really really mission
critical you should have it hosted in multiple datacentres
anyway so if something stupid does happen that you can't
control you at least still have services online as the load
balanced services would just switch.<br>
> Regards Chad.<br>
> <br>
> --<br>
> Chad Kelly<br>
> Manager<br>
> CPK Web Services<br>
> Phone 03 5273 0246<br>
> Web <a href="http://www.cpkws.com.au" target="_blank">www.cpkws.com.au</a><br>
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Chad Kelly
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CPK Web Services
Phone 03 5273 0246
Web <a href="http://www.cpkws.com.au" target="_blank">www.cpkws.com.au</a></pre>
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