<div dir="ltr"><div>Thales nShield Connect provides FIPs 140-2 grade security to distributed hosts. Keys are distributed using an encrypted remote file system.<br><br></div><div>So people advising government will be thinking of architectures where a government escrow server is an additional client. Give it Moore's law, technical advances, and the march of time, it's inevitable one day you'll need a license to run crypto services.<br><br></div><div>And I find the assumption of bad faith from government bewildering. It's been said democracy is a terrible system, it's just better than all other systems of government. But you hardly have grounds to complain if you won't engage in constructive public debate, which is how government policy actually happens, regardless of what some might think.<br><br></div><div></kevlar flame retardardant suit><br></div><div><br></div><div>Kind regards<br><br></div><div>Paul Wilkins<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 15 June 2017 at 17:44, Robert Hudson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hudrob@gmail.com" target="_blank">hudrob@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">I concur.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Providing an alternative solution is only useful if there is actually a valid alternative.<div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If there is not, you're best to just say it. If an idea is stupid, state not only that it is so, but state why. And don't sugar coat it either, sugar coating just gives wriggle room to someone trying to justify their own stupidity.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Rip that bandaid off.</div><div><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_extra" dir="auto"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 15 Jun. 2017 5:14 pm, "grenville armitage" <<a href="mailto:garmitage@swin.edu.au" target="_blank">garmitage@swin.edu.au</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="m_863271574428917483quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
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Whether we're talking about internet censorship, copyright takedowns, data retention, or now this, these Australian (always Australian) technical mailing lists are always full of people who say, "That's stupid, what they *really* should do is..." followed by, "We're working positively with the Government to make the best of a bad situation," after the inevitable loss.<br>
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You don't need to offer an alternative to a bad idea to communicate that it's a bad idea.<br>
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(I've got nothing to add. I just want to see the words above repeated.)<br>
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