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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">That’s the most terrifying line in his speech tbh. The privacy of someone who has not been found guilty of a crime should only be overridden
by a judge, considering all the factors.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Also,
<a href="https://xkcd.com/538/">https://xkcd.com/538/</a> comes to mind </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">J</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Phillip Grasso<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 13 June 2017 5:34 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mark Newton <newton@atdot.dotat.org><br>
<b>Cc:</b> ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Government intends to pass TSSR this parliament<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">"<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">The privacy of a terrorist can never be more important than public safety. Never."</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Is it a question of privacy or cost? The means exist to decrypt, its just more expensive. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 13 June 2017 at 00:16, Mark Newton <<a href="mailto:newton@atdot.dotat.org" target="_blank">newton@atdot.dotat.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Brandis: "Trust me, we only want the envelope, not the content."<br>
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<David Speers interviews him to see what that actually means, everybody laughs><br>
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Brandis: "Actually, we want the content too."<br>
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<span class="hoenzb"> - mark</span></span><br>
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<span class="im">On 06/13/2017 04:16 PM, James Andrewartha wrote:</span><span class="im"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><a href="https://www.pm.gov.au/media/2017-06-13/national-security-statement" target="_blank">https://www.pm.gov.au/media/2017-06-13/national-security-statement</a><br>
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Also includes the usual BS about breaking encryption in the name of<br>
national security, aka the war on maths.<br>
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"However encrypted messaging applications are also used by criminals and<br>
terrorists - at the moment much of this traffic is difficult for our<br>
security agencies to decrypt, and indeed for our Five Eyes partners as<br>
well.<br>
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Most of the major platforms of this kind are based in the United States<br>
where a strong libertarian tradition resists Government access to private<br>
communications as the FBI found when Apple would not help unlock the<br>
iPhone of the dead San Bernardino terrorist.<br>
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The privacy of a terrorist can never be more important than public safety.<br>
Never."<o:p></o:p></p>
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