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Radia Perlman is the 'guru".<br>
PDF of Interconnections, 2nd edition available here.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 2 May 2017 2:42 pm, "James
Andrewartha" <<a href="mailto:trs80@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au"
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<div class="quoted-text">On Tue, 2 May 2017, James
Andrewartha wrote:<br>
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> Please note: I do not run one of these networks,
my interest is more in<br>
> pointing out that the decisions of a single man
can greatly affect IPv6<br>
> rollout across the world and there's basically
nothing you or I can do<br>
> about it.<br>
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Or, to bring it back to the original point, Google could
save themselves<br>
millions if they instructed the developer to pull his
finger out and<br>
implement DHCPv6 in Android.<br>
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<div dir="auto">I don't always agree with Lorenzo, however from
what I see on IETF mailing lists he's pretty objective.</div>
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<div dir="auto">My experience of a many people coming to IPv6 is
they're quite subjective. They seem to assume IPv4's ways are
the only ways and the best ways, and they're then trying to
treat IPv6 as IPv4 with bigger addresses. That may seem to
minimise learning time, however they may not realise that a
lot of things in IPv6 were influenced by protocols that were
developed and commonly deployed after IPv4 was invented, such
as Novell's IPX or Apple's Appletalk.</div>
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<div dir="auto">The better approach to learn IPv6 is to not try
to cast IPv4's methods into it. Take the approach of "for this
problem X, it is solved this way Y in IPv4, and is solved this
way Z in IPv6." Y and Z will sometimes be similar, sometimes
they won't be. This is how we learnt different protocols when
we were dealing with multiprotocol networks in the 90s.</div>
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<div dir="auto">If your not if that era, the best book to read
is "Interconnections", 2nd Edition by Radia Perlman, because
it takes that approach. It is such a good book that if I was
forced to choose 2 networking books to take to be struck on a
desert island, it would be one of them. i wish it had been the
first networking book I read. I also think it should be
constantly on the shelf of any bookstore selling computing
books - and everytime I visit one, I look to see if it is
there. (And there is an Easter egg in the picture on the front
cover.)</div>
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<div dir="auto">Regards,</div>
<div dir="auto">Mark.</div>
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