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<p>I think Telstra's biggest competitor is their own products (and
their internal departments) - they don't want their cheaper SMB
products to compete with their more expensive "corporate" grade
products, so I'm pretty sure they arbitrarily restrict features
that higher end clients would likely use, though may also be about
having the staff on hand in the various areas to support it.<br>
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<p>Damian<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 24/04/17 15:35, Damien Gardner Jnr
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">That's always been the way with TID. First it was
no BGP on dialup, then when ADSL came out, ADSL was excluded
from it as well. Now that NBN is here, it's the same. The
explanation they gave when I first enquired about it, in the
dialup days, was it was a stability issue as PPP sessions may
drop multiple times an hour, and get your prefixes blacklisted.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 24 April 2017 at 15:25, Joseph
Goldman <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:joe@apcs.com.au" target="_blank">joe@apcs.com.au</a>></span>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> I should also point
out, the limitation of 'No NBN Tails' is a Telstra
specific limitation, i.e. <b>Telstra</b> dont support BGP
on any of <b>their</b> NBN tails, only on their more
directly connected type of services such as Metro
Ethernet.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Joe
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<div class="m_-2205028471795195776moz-cite-prefix">On
24/04/17 14:39, Joseph Goldman wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">To those other providers
cold-calling me out of the blue that are an
UNRELATED service to what I was asking for, please
dont. <br>
<br>
I know what I want, I specifically want to talk to
Telstra corporate/retail/whoever about it. I dont
want to be pitched other products, otherwise I would
have asked. <br>
<br>
Unfortunately so far through a few contacts I've
gotten, it seems that BGP over NBN delivered
services are a no-go, i.e. I need to go their
version of Metro Ethernet or IP-Line or whatever
they prefer to call it. Unfortunately this
significantly increases the cost, kind of killing
the point of getting it on an NBN tail. <br>
<br>
Thanks, <br>
Joe <br>
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On 24/04/17 09:24, Joseph Goldman wrote: <br>
<blockquote type="cite">Hi *, <br>
<br>
Does anyone have a good contact/account manager
for Telstra Internet Direct services? <br>
<br>
Looking to have a service delivered over NBN FTTP
- that allows BGP also. <br>
<br>
I've tried calling the local 'business center',
they had to refer it to corporate, who never got
back to me. <br>
I've tried calling the sales lines who have no
idea really what im talking about. <br>
<br>
Just appreciate a contact that I can get a solid
quote off who knows what kind of service I'm
actually after. <br>
<br>
Thanks, <br>
Joe <br>
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