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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">ULL’s for EFM/MBE are an exempt product from copper cutoff. You DO run into issues with cease sale in that you can’t augment the service by ordering more ULL’s
once cease sale goes through. IMO SLA’s and general restore for ULL’s, even on standard SLA are also much more reliable than anything NBN provides (high workload/CSG exemplitons and cyclone Debbie notwithstanding). And most importantly I can also deliver business
& carrier grade services over MBE.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Nathanael Bettridge<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 7 April 2017 11:56 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> paul+ausnog@oxygennetworks.com.au; ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] NBN real Business Plans<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">No one will sell an EFM service to an NBN connected premises though will they? Copper cut off etc?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> AusNOG
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks Ryan, that’s the sort of info I am looking for, people who are actually providing a true NBN Business plan.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I think the Skymesh ones are the business plans in those higher levels, but not 100% sure.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The other thing we need to do is be able to compare pricing with other offerings like EFM, it’s important that customers know their options and to be honest
if I can get a fibre connection from Telstra or AAPT for a similar price to NBN but don’t have associated AGVC costs then it’s worth considering<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">An ISP we deal with has just started offering 'business' NBN plans. What makes them business plans is that they're delivered over Traffic Class 2 (TC-2), so have a guaranteed CIR, and they're symmetric.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It's a very new service so I don't have too many details, but the prices we were quoted were similar to what you'd expect to pay for EFM for the same bandwidth.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, 7 Apr 2017 at 10:59 Nathanael Bettridge <<a href="mailto:nathanael@prodigy.com.au">nathanael@prodigy.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span class="gmailmsg"><span style="color:#1F497D">Any idea if they’re actually symmetric or just Skymesh shaping asymmetric consumer plans?</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span class="gmailmsg"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 7 April 2017 10:29 AM</span><br>
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<span class="gmailmsg"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] NBN real Business Plans</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="gmailmsg1">SkyMesh has symmetric plans - 100/100 and 200/200.<br>
<a href="http://www.skymesh.com.au/services/nbn/fibre/plans.php" target="_blank">http://www.skymesh.com.au/services/nbn/fibre/plans.php</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt">I doubt they are business grade in the sense of SLA and contention however but if you need the upload speed that's what you'd go for.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On 07/04/17 10:22,
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hi All, just wondering if anybody out there is selling true business plans from NBN and not a normal plan sold as a business plans ?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I am trying to get a feel for what prices these plans are going for but everybody who advertises NBN Business plans are just selling the standard plans.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The reason I know this is because a true NBN business plan is same speed up and down, according to NBN doco anyway.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Maybe nobody is selling them, perhaps NBN haven’t still released them yet, but we have some clients wanting a proper business grade solution and are asking about pricing for these
plans but I can’t find anything to compare with.<o:p></o:p></p>
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