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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>According to NBN doco their business plans have improved SLA’s, this is another thing I want to try and understand as yes, the current resi fault resolution times can be horrid, days and weeks are not unusual.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Nathan Brookfield [mailto:Nathan.Brookfield@simtronic.com.au] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 7 April 2017 11:14 AM<br><b>To:</b> Ryan Tucker<br><b>Cc:</b> Nathanael Bettridge; Nick Stallman; paul+ausnog@oxygennetworks.com.au; ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] NBN real Business Plans<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>The problem is they are still best effort for faults / outages just like an ADSL service.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div id=AppleMailSignature><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div id=AppleMailSignature><p class=MsoNormal>Fibre cut could be down for 2 days to 4 weeks, copper could be waiting 2 days to 2 weeks for a tech you just never know.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div id=AppleMailSignature><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div id=AppleMailSignature><p class=MsoNormal>They're taking a risk by selling them like that but still good on them for trying I guess, it seems like an acceptable risk.<br><br>Nathan Brookfield <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Chief Executive Officer<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Simtronic Technologies Pty Ltd<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.simtronic.com.au">http://www.simtronic.com.au</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On 7 Apr 2017, at 11:07, Ryan Tucker <<a href="mailto:rtucker09@gmail.com">rtucker09@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>An ISP we deal with has just started offering 'business' NBN plans. What makes them business plans is that they're delivered over Traffic Class 2 (TC-2), so have a guaranteed CIR, and they're symmetric.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>It's a very new service so I don't have too many details, but the prices we were quoted were similar to what you'd expect to pay for EFM for the same bandwidth.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, 7 Apr 2017 at 10:59 Nathanael Bettridge <<a href="mailto:nathanael@prodigy.com.au">nathanael@prodigy.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=gmailmsg><span style='color:#1F497D'>Any idea if they’re actually symmetric or just Skymesh shaping asymmetric consumer plans?</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=gmailmsg><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=gmailmsg><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b></span><span class=gmailmsg><span lang=EN-US> AusNOG [mailto:<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Nick Stallman</span></span><span lang=EN-US><br><span class=gmailmsg><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 7 April 2017 10:29 AM</span><br><span class=gmailmsg><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:paul%2Bausnog@oxygennetworks.com.au" target="_blank">paul+ausnog@oxygennetworks.com.au</a>; <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a></span><br><span class=gmailmsg><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] NBN real Business Plans</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=gmailmsg1>SkyMesh has symmetric plans - 100/100 and 200/200.<br><a href="http://www.skymesh.com.au/services/nbn/fibre/plans.php" target="_blank">http://www.skymesh.com.au/services/nbn/fibre/plans.php</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I doubt they are business grade in the sense of SLA and contention however but if you need the upload speed that's what you'd go for.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On 07/04/17 10:22, <a href="mailto:paul+ausnog@oxygennetworks.com.au" target="_blank">paul+ausnog@oxygennetworks.com.au</a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hi All, just wondering if anybody out there is selling true business plans from NBN and not a normal plan sold as a business plans ?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I am trying to get a feel for what prices these plans are going for but everybody who advertises NBN Business plans are just selling the standard plans.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>The reason I know this is because a true NBN business plan is same speed up and down, according to NBN doco anyway.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Maybe nobody is selling them, perhaps NBN haven’t still released them yet, but we have some clients wanting a proper business grade solution and are asking about pricing for these plans but I can’t find anything to compare with.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Paul<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>AusNOG mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" 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