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<div id="AppleMailSignature">Fibre cut could be down for 2 days to 4 weeks, copper could be waiting 2 days to 2 weeks for a tech you just never know.</div>


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<div id="AppleMailSignature">They're taking a risk by selling them like that but still good on them for trying I guess, it seems like an acceptable risk.<br>


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<div dir="ltr">An ISP we deal with has just started offering 'business' NBN plans. What makes them business plans is that they're delivered over Traffic Class 2 (TC-2), so have a guaranteed CIR, and they're symmetric.<br>


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<div>It's a very new service so I don't have too many details, but the prices we were quoted were similar to what you'd expect to pay for EFM for the same bandwidth.</div>


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<div dir="ltr">On Fri, 7 Apr 2017 at 10:59 Nathanael Bettridge <<a href="mailto:nathanael@prodigy.com.au">nathanael@prodigy.com.au</a>> wrote:<br>


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<p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="color:#1f497d" class="gmail_msg">Any idea if they’re actually symmetric or just Skymesh shaping asymmetric consumer plans?<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p>


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<b class="gmail_msg">Sent:</b> Friday, 7 April 2017 10:29 AM<br class="gmail_msg">


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<p class="gmail_msg">SkyMesh has symmetric plans - 100/100 and 200/200.<br class="gmail_msg">


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<p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg">Hi All, just wondering if anybody out there is selling true business plans from NBN and not a normal plan sold as a business plans ?<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></p>


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<p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg">I am trying to get a feel for what prices these plans are going for but everybody who advertises NBN Business plans are just selling the standard plans.<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></p>


<p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg">The reason I know this is because a true NBN business plan is same speed up and down, according to NBN doco anyway.<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></p>


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<p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg">Maybe nobody is selling them, perhaps NBN haven’t still released them yet, but we have some clients wanting a proper business grade solution and are asking about pricing for these plans but I can’t find anything to compare with.<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></p>


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