<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Ugh... Walled Garden* - need more coffee :(</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">ROY ADAMS<b> | </b></span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:gray">P</span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> <a value="+61730405010" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)">07 3040 5010</a> | </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:gray">Web</span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> <a href="http://www.racs.com.au/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">http://www.racs.com.au/</a> | </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:gray">Wiki</span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> <a href="https://ex.racs.com.au:444/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">https://ex.racs.com.au:444/</a> | </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:gray">EMail</span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> <a href="mailto:roy@racs.com.au" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">mailto:roy@racs.com.au</a></span><br></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 23 March 2017 at 14:31, Roy Adams <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:roy@racs.com.au" target="_blank">roy@racs.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Hey everyone.. My 2 cents here re VoIP after being here sorting PH-AU issues now for almost 4 years.</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Thanks Mike for prodding me.. been meaning to join the lst for more years than I can think...</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">UDP SIP also suffers with some Aussie IP's being 450ms+ RTT if routed via regular BGP paths.<br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><div>LFP/LFN issues are a huge problem most of the time for TCP stuff.</div><div><br></div></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">ComClark ISP here now have a dedicated link to Telstra Australia now Via Telstra Global/HK.<br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">ComClark do not peer with anyone or advertise this as an Aussie BGP preference.</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Nobody really officially knows about it, but if you are a BUSINESS LINK subscriber with ComClark/Converge here, you can request to have the target Australian subnet/net you need to get to added to their *Aussie Link* routing.</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">This transit/path is 167ms RTT from Philippines to AU <b>IF</b> you have symmetric routing... a lot better than most PH ISP's.</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">If your Aussie subnet/net is with an ISP that peers with Telstra, you will most-likely also get 167ms RTT back to Philippines to your ComClark IP's being symmetric.</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Telstra does seem to offer BGP preferencing in Australia to this ComClark/TelstraGlobal link for ComClark Public IP addresses</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">As noted above, ComClark will only send Australian-targetted traffic from PH to AU via this link only if requested, and only if it is a business link</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">If asymmetric, typically it usually comes back via Los Angeles,USA then Osaka,Japan before getting to PH</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">NOTE. ComClark only give Public IP's to business links.</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">All residential stuff here with ComClark is private IP behind a walled garnet using CGNAT</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Cheers</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_-2276755444931809341gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">ROY ADAMS<b> | </b></span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:gray">P</span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> <a value="+61730405010" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)">07 3040 5010</a> | </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:gray">Web</span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> <a href="http://www.racs.com.au/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">http://www.racs.com.au/</a><wbr> | </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:gray">Wiki</span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> <a href="https://ex.racs.com.au:444/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">https://ex.racs.com.<wbr>au:444/</a> | </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:gray">EMail</span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> <a href="mailto:roy@racs.com.au" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">mailto:roy@<wbr>racs.com.au</a></span><br></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 23 March 2017 at 14:15, Damien Gardner Jnr <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rendrag@rendrag.net" target="_blank">rendrag@rendrag.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Yup, APN are who I was going to suggest :)</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 at 3:04 pm, Mike Everest <<a href="mailto:mike@duxtel.com" target="_blank">mike@duxtel.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Don't know of any myself, but was easy for me to ask a bloke whom I reckon<br class="m_-2276755444931809341m_-3713351407850771188gmail_msg">
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