<div>See the problem is, he already lives in a cave!</div><div><br class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg">On Tue., 21 Mar. 2017 at 12:27 pm, Alex Samad <<a href="mailto:alex@samad.com.au" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">alex@samad.com.au</a>> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg"></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_msg">Wow<div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">You have an official reason to build a man cave !!!</div></div><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">Alex</div></div><div class="gmail_extra gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_msg">On 21 March 2017 at 12:18, David Vidos - NOVA iT GROUP <span class="gmail_msg"><<a href="mailto:David.Vidos@novaitgroup.com.au" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">David.Vidos@novaitgroup.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg"><blockquote class="gmail_quote gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><a name="m_2082462353654862722_m_-7229295914904350547_m_7419775893420273056__MailEndCompose" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" class="gmail_msg">Yeah, I was thinking along those lines. Build a tin roof shed and get it installed on that.<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" class="gmail_msg">But I love the Dog Kennel idea.<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></span></p><span class="gmail_msg">
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<b class="gmail_msg">Sent:</b> Tuesday, 21 March 2017 12:14 PM<br class="gmail_msg">
<b class="gmail_msg">To:</b> 'Damien Gardner Jnr' <<a href="mailto:rendrag@rendrag.net" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">rendrag@rendrag.net</a>>; 'Ross Wheeler' <<a href="mailto:ausnog@rossw.net" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">ausnog@rossw.net</a>>; <a href="mailto:paul%2Bausnog@oxygennetworks.com.au" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">paul+ausnog@oxygennetworks.com.au</a></span></p><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_2082462353654862722m_-7229295914904350547h5 gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg">
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<p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d" class="gmail_msg">Dog kennel?
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<p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><b class="gmail_msg"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" class="gmail_msg">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" class="gmail_msg"> AusNOG [<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
<b class="gmail_msg">On Behalf Of </b>Damien Gardner Jnr<br class="gmail_msg">
<b class="gmail_msg">Sent:</b> Tuesday, 21 March 2017 12:12 PM<br class="gmail_msg">
<b class="gmail_msg">To:</b> Ross Wheeler <<a href="mailto:ausnog@rossw.net" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">ausnog@rossw.net</a>>;
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<b class="gmail_msg">Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] NBN doing site surveys in OptiComm lit up areas<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg">On Tue, 21 Mar 2017 at 12:09 pm, Ross Wheeler <<a href="mailto:ausnog@rossw.net" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">ausnog@rossw.net</a>> wrote:<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></p>
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We rode on the winds of the rising storm,<br class="gmail_msg">
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