<div dir="ltr"><div><div>But intuitively, having 1/4 of your infrastructure idle should be cheaper than having 1/2 of your infrastructure idle. If that's not the case, it's because of costs of interconnect and management. If you're a national carrier, your interconnect should be pretty cost effective. Then there's management of 4 rather than 2 data centres. If that's a problem, it suggests a potential opportunity to better leverage automation.<br><br></div>Kind regards<br><br></div>Paul Wilkins<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 2 February 2017 at 15:18, Matt Smee <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:m.smee@unsw.edu.au" target="_blank">m.smee@unsw.edu.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">isn't standard architecture for core national infrastructure<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Date: </b>Thursday, 2 February 2017 at 3:14 pm<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a>></span></p><div><div class="h5"><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Of course when people say we have 2 core data centers, this should imply no data center is allowed to run over 50% capacity. It's odd/strange that 3 active core data centers should sound so unorthodox, yet this
is the only way to assure you can run your DCs at 65% and handle a DC going black. Begs the question why 4 active core DCs isn't standard architecture for core national infrastructure (which would assure high availability under 75% load), and 2x efficient
in idle infrastructure.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 2 February 2017 at 14:36, Nathan Brookfield <<a href="mailto:Nathan.Brookfield@simtronic.com.au" target="_blank">Nathan.Brookfield@simtronic.<wbr>com.au</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">Pitt Street and Chatswood are two of the most integral exchanges in the country for Telstra with a lot of there core routing, switching etc housed here.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">I'd say the increased load on the network from the Chats issue is likely a large part of the problem. Services trying to re-established, lowered switching capacity and so on<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Telstra Network Down<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">I think it's likely that there could be some critical some carrier
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interconnects at that exchange. So yeah, perhaps not so much that the <br>
service is down but more that certain destinations are unreachable?<br>
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Thu, Feb 02, 2017 at 03:18:21AM +0000, Nathan Le Nevez wrote:<br>
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> I beg to differ – I can’t call the bloke sitting next to me (busy tone). Has been like that since around 1pm…(Russell ACT)<br>
> <br>
> On 2/2/17, 2:14 pm, "AusNOG on behalf of Patrick Cole" <<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.<wbr>net</a> on behalf of
<a href="mailto:z@amused.net" target="_blank">z@amused.net</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Not nationwide, mobile seems fully functional here in ACT. <br>
> <br>
> Patrick<br>
> <br>
> Thu, Feb 02, 2017 at 03:05:43AM +0000, Joe Saxton wrote:<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> > A single fire at Chatswood brings all mobile services nationwide to a halt?
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> > <br>
> > -----Original Message-----<br>
> > From: AusNOG [<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.<wbr>ausnog.net</a>] On Behalf Of Brad Peczka<br>
> > Sent: Thursday, 2 February 2017 1:53 PM<br>
> > To: John Lindsay <<a href="mailto:johnslindsay@mac.com" target="_blank">johnslindsay@mac.com</a>>; jay binks <<a href="mailto:jaybinks@gmail.com" target="_blank">jaybinks@gmail.com</a>><br>
> > Cc: <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>
> > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra Network Down<br>
> > <br>
> > Chatswood fire confirmed. <a href="https://twitter.com/Telstra/status/826986145011478528" target="_blank">
https://twitter.com/Telstra/<wbr>status/826986145011478528</a><br>
> > <br>
> > Regards,<br>
> > -Brad.<br>
> > ______________________________<wbr>__________<br>
> > From: AusNOG [<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.<wbr>net</a>] On Behalf Of John Lindsay [<a href="mailto:johnslindsay@mac.com" target="_blank">johnslindsay@mac.com</a>]<br>
> > Sent: Thursday, 2 February 2017 10:50 AM<br>
> > To: jay binks<br>
> > Cc: <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>
> > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra Network Down<br>
> > <br>
> > Chatswood is an NBN POI too.<br>
> > <br>
> > Echos of Warrnambool: <a href="https://exchange.telstra.com.au/2015/07/06/warrnambool-exchange-fire-all-recommendations-complete/" target="_blank">
https://exchange.telstra.com.<wbr>au/2015/07/06/warrnambool-<wbr>exchange-fire-all-<wbr>recommendations-complete/</a><br>
> > <br>
> > jsl<br>
> > <br>
> > John Lindsay<br>
> > <a href="mailto:johnslindsay@mac.com" target="_blank">johnslindsay@mac.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:johnslindsay@mac.com" target="_blank">jo<wbr>hnslindsay@mac.com</a>><br>
> > <a href="tel:+61%20403%20577%20711" target="_blank">+61403577711</a><br>
> > <br>
> > On 2 Feb 2017, at 1:18 pm, jay binks <<a href="mailto:jaybinks@gmail.com" target="_blank">jaybinks@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:jaybinks@gmail.com" target="_blank">jay<wbr>binks@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
> > <br>
> > yea bit of a difference there..<br>
> > I was thinking the same.<br>
> > <br>
> > SURELY Chatswood ( based on the level of impact )<br>
> > <br>
> > On 2 February 2017 at 12:44, John Lindsay <<a href="mailto:johnslindsay@mac.com" target="_blank">johnslindsay@mac.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:johnslindsay@mac.com" target="_blank">j<wbr>ohnslindsay@mac.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
> > Chatsworth or Chatswood (Sydney)?<br>
> > <br>
> > John Lindsay<br>
> > <a href="mailto:johnslindsay@mac.com" target="_blank">johnslindsay@mac.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:johnslindsay@mac.com" target="_blank">jo<wbr>hnslindsay@mac.com</a>><br>
> > <a href="tel:+61%20403%20577%20711" target="_blank">+61403577711</a><tel:0403%20577%<wbr>20711><br>
> > <br>
> > On 2 Feb 2017, at 1:13 pm, Matthew Jenkins <<a href="mailto:mjenkins@airefrig.com.au" target="_blank">mjenkins@airefrig.com.au</a><<wbr>mailto:<a href="mailto:mjenkins@airefrig.com.au" target="_blank">mjenkins@airefrig.com.<wbr>au</a>>> wrote:<br>
> > <br>
> > Hi All,<br>
> > <br>
> > A Telstra Service Executive Rep said there is a fire in the Chatsworth exchange NSW.<br>
> > Its Apparently staring to affect Mobiles calls nationally too.<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > From: AusNOG [<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.<wbr>ausnog.net</a>] On Behalf Of Jacob Bisby<br>
> > Sent: Thursday, 2 February 2017 10:40 AM<br>
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> > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra Network Down<br>
> > <br>
> > Can also confirm no voice on Telstra MVNO's/resellers (Boost, Mactel).<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > * Jacob Bisby<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > From: AusNOG [<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.<wbr>ausnog.net</a>] On Behalf Of Kevin Wakefield<br>
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