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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">This is the main issue with Wordpress,
      and other similar systems, its not the core platform that's the
      issue, it is the first time developers and the rubbish ones that
      don't know how to write code properly, so you end up with bloated
      websites with security issues, and a bunch of people who think
      those broken plugins are awesome, as they don't know about the
      security issues so they go and install them. <br>
      This is why any decent managed hosting provider won't allow
      customers to install random plugins into systems such as
      Wordpress. <br>
      Regards Chad. <br>
      <br>
      On 1/30/2017 11:55 PM, Paul Wilkins wrote:<br>
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          <div>Pretty sure most everyone is aware that security is
            easier said than done. When someone with the resources of
            Google can be hacked, it's not lack of knowledge that's the
            problem. It's that the industry is generally in denial as to
            how bad the situation is, and business process steamrollers
            over the cracks. Business development sells the customer a
            service, project managers push timeframes for a solution on
            time and under budget, and everyone knows any hack will be
            down the track, and be someone else's problem. The problem
            is failure to build security integral to IT systems, and
            that's not really possible with an internet that's been
            built on an open architecture. Every month I'm wondering who
            will be the high profile hack this month and this will
            probably continue without a fundamental rethink of how
            security is integrated and end to end delivered.<br>
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          Kind regards<br>
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        Paul Wilkins <br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On 30 January 2017 at 23:04, Nathan
          Brookfield <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:Nathan.Brookfield@simtronic.com.au"
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                <p>After <span>Macquarie Media apparently had 2GB.com
                    and 4BC.com hacked this morning, also on WordPress
                    it seems there is a big lack of knowledge on this
                    stuff out there.</span></p>
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                        Regards,</span></p>
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                        Brookfield (VK2NAB)</span></p>
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                        face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b>
                        Chad Kelly <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:chad@cpkws.com.au"
                          target="_blank">chad@cpkws.com.au</a>><br>
                        <b>Sent:</b> Monday, 30 January 2017 10:44 PM<br>
                        <b>To:</b> Nathan Brookfield<br>
                        <b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net"
                          target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
                        <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Borrowed addresses,
                        data retention, court orders</font>
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                            I should of provided the following link with
                            my previous post but <br>
                            Sucuri.net offer a paid service for cleaning
                            Malware and they offer a <br>
                            free scan for websites as well.<br>
                            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="https://sitecheck.sucuri.net/results/theispguy.com"
                              id="m_-2724271659312263812LPlnk770587"
                              target="_blank">https://sitecheck.sucuri.net/<wbr>results/theispguy.com</a><br>
                            It looks like a bit of a mess.<br>
                            <br>
                            Regards Chad.<br>
                            <br>
                            On 1/30/2017 6:48 PM, Nathan Brookfield
                            wrote:<br>
                            > Schooled!<br>
                            ><br>
                            > Nathan Brookfield<br>
                            > Chief Executive Officer<br>
                            ><br>
                            > Simtronic Technologies Pty Ltd<br>
                            > <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="http://www.simtronic.com.au"
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                              target="_blank">http://www.simtronic.com.au</a><br>
                            ><br>
                            > On 30 Jan 2017, at 18:45, Chad Kelly
                            <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:chad@cpkws.com.au"
                              target="_blank">chad@cpkws.com.au</a>>
                            wrote:<br>
                            ><br>
                            >> On 1/30/2017 10:34 AM, <a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:ausnog-request@lists.ausnog.net"
                              target="_blank">ausnog-request@lists.ausnog.<wbr>net</a>
                            wrote:<br>
                            >> Apparently so... screw Wordpress...
                            bloody nightmare to manage.<br>
                            > Not if you have the right tools in
                            place.<br>
                            ><br>
                            > Generally now a days you can automate
                            the security updates for Wordpress so you
                            don't even need to think about it.<br>
                            ><br>
                            > Plus you should be using other security
                            measures such as Mod_security and things
                            like Fail 2 Ban.<br>
                            ><br>
                            > <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="https://modsecurity.org/about.html"
                              id="m_-2724271659312263812LPlnk11242"
                              target="_blank">https://modsecurity.org/about.<wbr>html</a><br>
                            ><br>
                            > and <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="http://fail2ban.org" target="_blank">fail2ban.org</a><br>
                            ><br>
                            > Those two tools alone with decent
                            configs will nuke anything that tries to
                            hack in.<br>
                            ><br>
                            > For extra security on top of that you
                            can use CXS, which will scan for things like
                            scripts containing malware and quarantine
                            them so that if something does manage to get
                            in it doesn't affect your online presence.<br>
                            ><br>
                            > <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="https://configserver.com/cp/cxs.html"
                              target="_blank">https://configserver.com/cp/<wbr>cxs.html</a>
                            i've been using the Config Server tools for
                            years now.<br>
                            ><br>
                            > With those tools and Mod_security
                            configured properly you don't need the extra
                            security plugins for Wordpress specifically.<br>
                            ><br>
                            ><br>
                            > When I checked a few hours ago the ISP
                            Guy site was still infected and was
                            redirecting to another site.<br>
                            ><br>
                            > Regards Chad.<br>
                            ><br>
                            ><br>
                            ><br>
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                            -- <br>
                            Chad Kelly<br>
                            Manager<br>
                            CPK Web Services<br>
                            web <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="http://www.cpkws.com.au"
                              target="_blank">www.cpkws.com.au</a><br>
                            phone 03 9013 4853<br>
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Chad Kelly 
Manager 
CPK Web Services 
web <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.cpkws.com.au">www.cpkws.com.au</a>
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