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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jay Dixon<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 19 December 2016 7:23 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Chris Ford<br>
<b>Cc:</b> ausnog@ausnog.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Internet companies forced to block The Pirate Bay, bittorrent websites in Australia, Federal Court rules<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">i love that the byproduct of this court case is a comprehensive list of all the good torrent sites and mirrors.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Chris Ford <<a href="mailto:chris.ford@inaboxgroup.com.au" target="_blank">chris.ford@inaboxgroup.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I've been following this here <a href="https://s115a.com/cases/current" target="_blank">
https://s115a.com/cases/current</a><br>
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From my skim of the lists the respondents to the actions all roll up to Telstra, Optus, Vocus or TPG). I didn't see any independent ISPs listed. So unless you are a group company of the Big 4 you won’t be a recipient of the orders, and if you are, I'm sure
you are already well aware of what is going on.<br>
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<span class="im">-----Original Message-----</span><br>
<span class="im">From: AusNOG [mailto:<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] On Behalf Of Mark Newton</span><br>
<span class="im">Sent: Friday, 16 December 2016 2:41 PM</span><br>
<span class="im">To: Ross Wheeler <<a href="mailto:ausnog@rossw.net">ausnog@rossw.net</a>></span><br>
<span class="im">Cc: <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a></span><br>
<span class="im">Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Internet companies forced to block The Pirate Bay, bittorrent websites in Australia, Federal Court rules</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Dec 15, 2016, at 4:56 PM, Ross Wheeler <<a href="mailto:ausnog@rossw.net">ausnog@rossw.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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> On Thu, 15 Dec 2016, Nathan Brookfield wrote:<br>
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>> The Federal Court has ordered internet companies to block five copyright-infringing websites, including torrent website The Pirate Bay.<br>
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> So, the next questions are:<br>
> * who tells us ISPs officially, what we have to block?<br>
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A court order.<br>
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> * when do they tell us.<br>
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After you have been named as a respondent in a Federal Court action, and been presented with an order.<br>
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> * does it only apply to the big-few, or everyone?<br>
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It applies to everyone who is named as a respondent in a Federal Court action under s115a and has subsequently received a court order.<br>
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> * if the previous answer is "everyone", who do we bill,<br>
> and do we have to "trust them" that it'll be paid, or can<br>
> we just send them the bill and not do anything until it is?<br>
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The previous answer isn’t “everyone.” You bill the claimant. The payment conditions will be in the court order.<br>
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> The phrase "tilting at windmills" springs to mind.<br>
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Yes, pointless exercise. Training Australians to use evasion methods; once they’re doing that, further enforcement action is ineffective, so driving them in that direction is practically indistinguishable from saying, “Meh, don’t care anymore.”<br>
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The overwhelming response I’ve seen to yesterday’s action is, “LOL.” I’m encouraged by that.<br>
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- mark<br>
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