<div dir="auto"><div><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 20 Dec. 2016 8:14 pm, "Joshua D'Alton" <<a href="mailto:joshua@railgun.com.au">joshua@railgun.com.au</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hold up.... this is a "game" which has been built and populated with metadata far beyond what in reality will be obtained or could be correlated.<div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Hmm, it might have been fake metadata. The article swaps between scenario and real subtly.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">"<span style="background-color:rgb(246,246,246);color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"open sans","helvetica neue",helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px">With access to the kind of metadata that has been retained and made available to Australian government agencies for the past year",</span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="background-color:rgb(246,246,246);color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"open sans","helvetica neue",helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><font color="#333333" face="open sans, helvetica neue, helvetica, arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(246,246,246)">which I read as a selected subset for the purposes of the scenario.</span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font color="#333333" face="open sans, helvetica neue, helvetica, arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(246,246,246)"><br></span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font color="#333333" face="open sans, helvetica neue, helvetica, arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(246,246,246)">"</span></font><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"open sans","helvetica neue",helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(246,246,246)">Only authorised agencies can access metadata, though many unauthorised government organisations have been </span><a href="http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-10-04/government-departments-obtain-metadata-via-afp/7898648" style="background:rgb(246,246,246);color:rgb(223,50,38);text-decoration:none;font-family:"open sans","helvetica neue",helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px">getting around this</a><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"open sans","helvetica neue",helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(246,246,246)"> by asking the AFP to do metadata searches for them. They don't need a warrant, and they don't need to warn you.",</span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"open sans","helvetica neue",helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(246,246,246)"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><font color="#333333" face="open sans, helvetica neue, helvetica, arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(246,246,246)">which then read like they had no trouble assembling this subset.</span></font></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>And then, apparently a bunch of 12yr olds manage to 'crack the case' in only 2 hours? Don't know who or why this challenge even came to be, but its as realistic as "hacking" scenes you see on TV...</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="elided-text"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 7:51 PM, Mark Smith <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:markzzzsmith@gmail.com" target="_blank">markzzzsmith@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"> Browsing twitter, come across a Cryptome tweet, which can be interesting, and then it's ... WT*?!<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://twitter.com/Cryptomeorg/status/811118431852523520" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/Cryptomeor<wbr>g/status/811118431852523520</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="m_-9168930492709288594h5">On 20 Dec. 2016 2:27 pm, "Noel Butler" <<a href="mailto:noel.butler@ausics.net" target="_blank">noel.butler@ausics.net</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="m_-9168930492709288594h5"><div style="font-size:10pt">
<p>I'm sure this will surprise no one here...</p>
<p><a href="https://www.ag.gov.au/Consultations/Pages/Access-to-telecommunications-data-in-civil-proceedings.aspx" target="_blank">https://www.ag.gov.au/Consulta<wbr>tions/Pages/Access-to-telecomm<wbr>unications-data-in-civil-proce<wbr>edings.aspx</a></p>
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<p>The Attorney-General’s Department is inviting submissions to support a review by the Minister for Communications and the Attorney-General into access to telecommunications data in civil proceedings. </p>
<p>The Parliamentary Joint Committee on Intelligence and Security <a href="http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Joint/Intelligence_and_Security/Data_Retention/Report" target="_blank">Advisory report on the Telecommunications (Interception and Access) Amendment (Data Retention) Bill 2014</a>, recommended that civil litigants be prohibited from being able to access telecommunications data held by a service provider solely for the purpose of complying with the mandatory data retention regime. </p>
<p>The committee considered that as the data retention regime was established specifically for law enforcement and national security purposes, as a general principle it would be inappropriate for data retained under the scheme to be drawn on as a new source of evidence in civil proceedings. </p>
<p>However, the committee also indicated that it was aware of the potential for unintended consequences resulting from a prohibition on courts authorising access to data retained under the scheme and recommended that the Minister for Communications and the Attorney-General review this measure.</p>
<p>Consequently, section 280 of the <em>Telecommunications Act 1997</em> was amended such that data retained solely for the purposes of the data retention scheme cannot be used for civil proceedings. That prohibition commences on 13 April 2017. The provision includes a regulation making power to enable appropriate exceptions to be made.....</p>
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