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<p>+1 from me too!<br>
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<p>This is the most intelligent thing I've read in the last few
pages of posts, prepare for the worst and put in the best solution
within your budget constraints, You can't afford disaster
mitigation plan? Can you afford not to have one?</p>
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Kind Regards,<br>
Jim.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 26/09/2016 2:41 PM, Bob Woolley
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<div dir="ltr">This.
<div>+11111111
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<div>Bob</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 26 September 2016 at 14:37, McDonald
Richards <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div>What's that Fight Club quote...</div>
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<div>“On a long enough time line, the survival rate for
everyone drops to zero.”<br>
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Back your shit up and distribute your applications if
they're mission critical. Plan for the worst and hope for
the best.
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<div>This can be said for the ransomware thread too.</div>
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<div>Malicious threats, natural disasters, planes crashing
into data centers near airports by accident (coz nobody
would ever build a data center near an airport right?),
all can be mitigated from a data loss perspective if you
plan for it.</div>
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<div>I'm pretty sure if there was a twister on top of the
data center that housed your BRAS, your customers would
cut you a few days slack to make arrangements. If you
tell them you lost your account database because it was
your only copy, you deserve to lose them.</div>
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<div>Macca</div>
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<div class="h5">On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 5:55 PM, Sam
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<div class="gmail_quote"><span>On Sun, Sep 25,
2016 at 10:36 PM, Skeeve Stevens <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:skeeve+ausnog@eintellegonetworks.com" target="_blank">skeeve+ausnog@eintellegonetwo<wbr>rks.com</a>></span>
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<div>But... I don't think we should
theorise in an open forum giving
anyone ideas on how you could abuse
this situation.<br>
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<div>I'd even scrub the archives of
this if possible.</div>
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<div>I always find it strange when people
put forward advice like this.</div>
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<div>Even the most basic of IT security
courses puts forward that 'security
through obscurity' is a bad plan. If you
feel smuggling in contraband is a real
risk (I do not subscribe to that theory),
you should be out talking about it.</div>
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<div>If you're worried about terrorist,
commercial espionage or even
'nation-state' attacks on your equipment
in a data centre, then avoiding talking
about it is just dumb. The 'bad guys' are
not stupid and are certainly able to
discuss freely, so keeping the group
defending against them artificially small
is self-defeating. It's more about ego
than about getting a good result.</div>
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<div>The simple fact exists and remains true
that putting all your eggs in the one
basket is a fantastically stupid idea.
It's been shown time and time again that
even the most well-run and
well-intentioned data centres can and do
suffer failures. If being up 24/7 is your
goal, don't be in a single site, or you've
already lost.</div>
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<div>Likewise, don't be with a single
carrier, as (again, it's been shown to be
true) intentional or unintentional damage
to outside plant like fibre and power is
also a thing. There would be tens of
thousands of carrier pits with no locks or
locks that are relatively easily forced,
yet you don't see much in the way of
hand-wringing over this risk.</div>
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<div>If you build your services properly,
all of these risks can be minimised. That
is where the discussion and focus should
be, not ridiculous 'do not talk about'
topics or suggestions to censor the list
and/or archive. This is the Internet, not
a 5-eyes meeting. It came to be by an open
and sharing attitude.</div>
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<div>Sam</div>
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