<p dir="ltr">The way it works in the real world Skeeve is that we ask "Do you have backups?", and then even if the answer is no, we investigate, because sometimes users aren't aware of things like VSS.</p>
<p dir="ltr">But then we also say "And our advice is that no matter where this individual event may lead us, that we look at implementing a new/more appropriate backup and recovery solution to ensure that if this happens again, you are in a better situation."</p>
<p dir="ltr">And if that advice is ignored, I would personally stop servicing the client after the current issue is dealt with, or look for another employer. Because if sensible advice is being ignored, I would rather be elsewhere, instead of being the one desperately trying to recover data at 4am the next time it happens.</p>
<p dir="ltr">That you actually think that we say "you didn't have backups, haha!" and not help? That says more about you than it does about us.</p>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 24 Sep 2016 9:49 AM, "Skeeve Stevens" <<a href="mailto:skeeve%2Bausnog@eintellegonetworks.com">skeeve+ausnog@eintellegonetworks.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Back-ups and recovery are the number one way to deal with these issues. <br><br>But, if you don't have access to backups, and it happens a lot, then you need to do what you need to do to get back online. And if I ever hear an IT guy say something like 'well, you should have backed up' I would recommend terminating them.<div><br></div><div>It's very easy in hindsight to make judgement or stand on the sideline and make moral judgements on others.... but I deal with real people with real suffering, and you deal with the immediate pain, then you worry about the failure that caused the situation later - as long as you do.</div><div><br></div><div>There are so many arrogant, biased and self righteous people in IT who forget who pays them - whether it be a customer or employer. If you don't have empathy for your customers... go find another job. IT us a customer service business.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br>...Skeeve</div><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><div><b style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">Skeeve Stevens - Founder & The Architect</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px"> - eintellego Networks Pty Ltd</span></div><div><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">Email: </span><a href="mailto:skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px" target="_blank">skeeve@<wbr>eintellegonetworks.com</a><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px"> ; Web: </span><a href="http://eintellegonetworks.com/" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px" target="_blank">eintellegonetworks.com</a></div><div><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px;margin:0px">Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; S<a>kype: skeeve ; </a>LinkedIn: <a href="http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve" target="_blank">/in/skeeve</a> ; <wbr>Expert360: <a href="https://expert360.com/profile/d54a9" target="_blank">Profile</a> ; Keybase: <a href="https://keybase.io/skeeve" target="_blank">https://keybase.io/<wbr>skeeve</a></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 9:04 AM, Karl Auer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kauer@biplane.com.au" target="_blank">kauer@biplane.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Fri, 2016-09-23 at 23:08 +1000, Skeeve Stevens wrote:<br>
> But... You've been hit at work (where you are responsible), family<br>
> business (where you may or may not) and at home (where you are likely<br>
> responsible).<br>
><br>
> This is not a fantastic testament to you skills is it.<br>
<br>
Skeeve - all the prevention in the world sometimes doesn't work. The<br>
trojan slips through, the tired worker clicks... And the more you do<br>
with IT the more likely it is to happen. We have lots of customers -<br>
ransomware attacks are a certainty.<br>
<br>
The key is to have backups and a plan.<br>
<br>
Our customers have been hit too - and we've got them up and running<br>
from good, current backups. It costs them a day or two of<br>
inconvenience, and they lose a few hours work. We (and they) consider<br>
that a very good thing. Testament to our fantastic skills, in fact :-)<br>
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Regards, K.<br>
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